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Re:Fastly Outage by rvz on Tuesday June 08, 2021 @06:12AM (#27432683)
Centralising everything™ and the whole internet goes down because of that.
Re:Fastly Outage by aembleton on Tuesday June 08, 2021 @06:16AM (#27432738)
and yet you're able to leave this comment.
Re:Fastly Outage by rvz on Tuesday June 08, 2021 @06:21AM (#27432827)
Because HN and those who use less or those who use backup services are smart and those who are caught now have to panic and wait.

Probably going to short the hell out of $FSLY.

Re:Fastly Outage by morelikeborelax on Tuesday June 08, 2021 @06:30AM (#27432956)
Over one issue that highlights they have an abundance of top level customers? Interesting strategy when it's already at a low.
Re:Fastly Outage by rvz on Tuesday June 08, 2021 @06:42AM (#27433135)
One issue that should have been mitigated at least by Fastly; worse if the client has to do it.

They proudly stated this from their own website to their customers:

> "Fastly’s network has built-in redundancies and automatic failover routing to ensure optimal performance and uptime."

If that isn't one huge lie, I don't know what is.

Re:Fastly Outage by aliasEli on Tuesday June 08, 2021 @07:36AM (#27433755)
Please don't call it a lie. It means that they knowingly presented something they knew to be false as the truth. So far I have seen no evidence to support that.
Re:Fastly Outage by southerntofu on Tuesday June 08, 2021 @08:35AM (#27434292)
It is definitely a lie, but it's the same lie sold by all cloud offerings. Can you name a single cloud/CDN operator without downtimes?

It's normal to have downtimes but they are usually scheduled and quick (think <10 minutes per month for rebooting and/or hardware parts replacement). I'm pretty sure most non-profit hosts like disroot.org or globenet.org have similar or better 9's than all these fancy cloud services.

Re:Fastly Outage by detaro on Tuesday June 08, 2021 @08:37AM (#27434318)
It can have all these things and still fail, suggesting otherwise would be fairly naive.
Re:Fastly Outage by smhost on Tuesday June 08, 2021 @06:20AM (#27432806)
if by "everything" you mean one thing, and by "centralize" you mean not centralized, then sure.
Re:Fastly Outage by darkwater on Tuesday June 08, 2021 @06:33AM (#27433006)
How is having a large chunk of the internet using the same CDN provider not "centralizing"? It's not a hard monopoly obviously but still it meets the definition of centralization.
Re:Fastly Outage by smhost on Tuesday June 08, 2021 @06:45AM (#27433193)
how is private companies choosing to use a common supplier in a competitive market centralization? monopolies are not centralization either. you need to read a better book.
Re:Fastly Outage by southerntofu on Tuesday June 08, 2021 @08:37AM (#27434311)
How is a market competitive when there's a quasi-monopoly on infrastructure? When public money is used to irrigate the same corporations with huge $$$, while non-profit network operators are left to rot?
Re:Fastly Outage by darkwater on Tuesday June 08, 2021 @07:01AM (#27433426)
it's centralization because they all use the same provider. Why do you care about incentives here? The result is the same, just like capitalism and free market tend to monopolies in the long run.