Re:Fastly Outage
by threeseed on Tuesday June 08, 2021 @06:06AM
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I wonder why Amazon is not using Cloudfront for their own website.
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Re:Fastly Outage
by lordpankake on Tuesday June 08, 2021 @06:41AM
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Cloudfront, by Amazon's own admission, specialises in high bandwidth delivery (ie huge videos). Fastly has consistently better performance as a small object cache, which makes it the choice for web assets
https://www.streamingmediablog.com/2020/05/fastly-amazon-hom...
Re:Fastly Outage
by morelikeborelax on Tuesday June 08, 2021 @06:13AM
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Fastly gives them the edge performance they need without having to build it themselves. They have been a customer for a while I think.
But they have competing products through AWS.
I imagine it works well for the whole business that they allow product teams to use the best cloud tools for the job rather than requiring them to use AWS for everything. If AWS is forced to compete even for Amazon.com's custom, that should make the whole company more resilient to long term technical stagnation.
AWS Route53 and Cloudfront are direct competitors to Fastly.
Re:Fastly Outage
by morelikeborelax on Tuesday June 08, 2021 @06:39AM
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That's how good Fastly is. Outside of this issue it's a great service.
Yeah, this is what makes me feel this is more an AWS thing
Re:Fastly Outage
by lpmitchell on Tuesday June 08, 2021 @06:11AM
(#27432663)
The m.media-amazon.com domain (and a few other CDN'd domains that they use) are running through Fastly:
nslookup m.media-amazon.com
Name: media.amazon.map.fastly.net
It is very interesting that they are not using CloudFront!
Re:Fastly Outage
by cowsandmilk on Tuesday June 08, 2021 @06:50AM
(#27433286)
really, m.media-amazon.com seems to have a very short TTL (showing 37 seconds right now) and has been weighted to cloudfront now.
Amazon is also known to use Akamai. Sure, Amazon relies heavily on AWS, but why should it surprise anyone that a retail website obsessed with instant loading of pages decides to use non-AWS CDNs if the performance is better.
Even if CloudFront became the default, I'm certain amazon.com would keep contracts with fastly and akamai just so they can weight traffic away from CloudFront in an outage.
Good to have 3rd party redundancy, time to fail over to something else now I'd think though.
They already have:
$ host m.media-amazon.com
m.media-amazon.com is an alias for c.media-amazon.com.
c.media-amazon.com has address 99.86.119.84
(which is a Cloudfront IP)Yep they did exactly this and are now running on cloudfront
looks like amazon.com started using fastly in May 2020 (https://www.streamingmediablog.com/2020/05/fastly-amazon-hom...) so it's not an AWS thing
AWS is reporting no issues across the regions:
Re:Fastly Outage
by speedgoose on Tuesday June 08, 2021 @06:17AM
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AWS is almost never reporting issues on this page.
Re:Fastly Outage
by object_Object on Tuesday June 08, 2021 @06:46AM
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AWS don't report outages until it's undoubtedly them.
Fastly deploy their own hardware,
(That's one of their selling points) I don't think they rely much on AWS, maybe just for network interconnection?
Re:Fastly Outage
by lordpankake on Tuesday June 08, 2021 @06:41AM
(#27433125)
Fastly doesn't run on AWS.