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Re:The top-ranking HTML editor on Google is an SEO scam by DelightOne on Tuesday June 08, 2021 @04:25AM (#27431886)
Agreed, I heard that before.

What about trust-based systems. You choose who you trust and get information that they found not to be SEO-garbage, like trust-rings. When the system can't do it alone, user-centric feedback may work. That could give interesting inputs besides the ones Google already gets using its standard metrics.

Re:The top-ranking HTML editor on Google is an SEO scam by teddyh on Tuesday June 08, 2021 @05:25AM (#27432186)
When you place a tangible value on trust, trust becomes a commodity to be bought and sold. See:

1. Old domain names bought solely for their old SEO rank.

2. Apps on mobile app stores are sold, and updates begin to include shady privacy-invading malware.

3. Old free software projects on various registries (npm etc.) are sold, with the same result as (2).

Re:The top-ranking HTML editor on Google is an SEO scam by DelightOne on Tuesday June 08, 2021 @05:50AM (#27432339)
Agreed, being able to become part of any group makes this problematic. Without repercussions, it seems difficult. Detection of ownership and the following loss of trust seems to be also in order. Or make the trust innate, not sellable to others, under the assumption that you cannot sell yourself.

Otherwise, it seems really like a cat and mouse game. Another option may be to force SEO to be indistinguishable from the best content. Is that the current goal?

Re:The top-ranking HTML editor on Google is an SEO scam by rrdharan on Tuesday June 08, 2021 @11:33AM (#27436531)
Re:The top-ranking HTML editor on Google is an SEO scam by randomswede on Tuesday June 08, 2021 @05:20AM (#27432168)
Yes, but it feels like an approach that would not allow you to do anon searches. I guess pseud searches may be good enough.

I suspect this is actually one of those fundamentally hard problems.