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Re:Apple asks staff to return to office 3 days a week starti... by jsnk on Wednesday June 02, 2021 @07:59PM (#27375496)
We should stop kids from wearing the masks. The covid risk for the kids are miniscule and masks do not stop covid anyway.
Re:Apple asks staff to return to office 3 days a week starti... by martimarkov on Wednesday June 02, 2021 @08:11PM (#27375591)
Factually incorrect - both statements.

Minuscule (if we just take it at face value) is not the same as none. If a kid dies then there is a risk. Plus it depends on what I consider to be high risk. If a kid dies from preventable causes then for me that’s high risk environment.

Kids also spread the disease even we ignore the risk for them. So that means that it’s an increase of the risk for everyone else. Kids also interact with their grandparents in a lot of cultures quite frequently which is the highest risk group.

Mask decrease the probability of spreading or contracting COVID.

Re:Apple asks staff to return to office 3 days a week starti... by orangecat on Wednesday June 02, 2021 @08:44PM (#27375826)
Minuscule (if we just take it at face value) is not the same as none. If a kid dies then there is a risk.

This isn't a useful classification; literally everything we do has some risk. 300 Americans under 18 have died from Covid (https://www.statista.com/statistics/1191568/reported-deaths-...), which is insignificant when compared to deaths from accidents, and not much higher than pre-Covid flu deaths (https://www.cdc.gov/flu/spotlights/2019-2020/2019-20-pediatr...).

Kids also interact with their grandparents in a lot of cultures quite frequently which is the highest risk group.

At least in the US, their grandparents should have been vaccinated months ago.

Re:Apple asks staff to return to office 3 days a week starti... by chrisrogers on Wednesday June 02, 2021 @08:15PM (#27375622)
Masks are critical for dampening the potential for spread. The goal is not entirely to mitigate risk for the kid themselves, but of spread to their household that leads to increased likelihood of deaths.
Re:Apple asks staff to return to office 3 days a week starti... by SllX on Wednesday June 02, 2021 @08:42PM (#27375813)
At this point, for those households, all I have to say to them is get vaccinated or STFU.

San Francisco sits at 60% fully vaccinated with most of the Bay Area in the same range; only Solano County lags very far behind at 39% fully vaccinated.

If between now and September, we can’t get society vaccinated to the point that kids can attend school 5 days a week without a mask, then we either need to do some full on Union busting or it’s time to start leaving the unvaccinated behind and let them take their lives into their own hands. Will that suck for those that for some reason can’t? Yes, but we can’t keep society in a holding pattern for them forever.

Re:Apple asks staff to return to office 3 days a week starti... by olliej on Wednesday June 02, 2021 @08:16PM (#27375629)
seatbelts don't stop people dying in car crashes, hospitals don't stop people dying from injuries,
Re:Apple asks staff to return to office 3 days a week starti... by 0xbadcafebee on Wednesday June 02, 2021 @08:14PM (#27375621)
https://www.health.harvard.edu/diseases-and-conditions/coron... https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/daily-life-coping/...

The risks are lower, not miniscule. Some are also vulnerable to MIS-C. Masks do not stop covid for adults either, should adults stop wearing masks? (No.) Children are also potentially infectious.