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Re:It's virtually impossible to read old iMessages and they ... by spenvo on Friday May 28, 2021 @02:54PM (#27319156)
Author here: the gist is that it's practically impossible to scroll to the beginning of an iMessage chat, and that's the only way to get to the beginning of a conversation. These old conversations take up several gigabytes of space, yet there's no good way to search them (because search for old messages is unreliable).

This aspect of the iMessage user experience has remained untouched for a decade, despite everyone's chats growing longer. Searching for particular iMessages sucks because the results miss the broader context of the conversation (a single message is not useful when you want to reread a conversation).

(Also just noting, as the post author I created a title better-suited to HN's 80 character limit.)

Re:It's virtually impossible to read old iMessages and they ... by 4f77616973 on Friday May 28, 2021 @02:59PM (#27319203)
Have you tried emailing Craig Federighi about this? I emailed him a bunch of times about several things and he's a really nice and responsive person.

If you do, tell us about it here on HN.

Re:It's virtually impossible to read old iMessages and they ... by spenvo on Friday May 28, 2021 @04:54PM (#27320383)
I actually did try emailing Tim Cook a few months ago, but I got bounce backs. I tried [email protected] and [email protected] but the mailer daemons said the addresses weren't registered. It sounds like a crazy thing to do, but I remembered how Steve Jobs would reply to users' emails and read an article where Tim said he set aside time to read users' emails.[0]

[0] - https://www.inc.com/business-insider/tim-cook-wakes-up-at-4-...

Re:It's virtually impossible to read old iMessages and they ... by 4f77616973 on Friday May 28, 2021 @06:23PM (#27321226)
Craig's email is [email protected]. The guy is very chill. It's better you email a software guy about software.

Also, be sure to file a bug report / enhancement at https://www.apple.com/feedback/iphone.html

Re:It's virtually impossible to read old iMessages and they ... by crossroadsguy on Friday May 28, 2021 @09:21PM (#27322343)
- I’m never filing a bug report ever again on a bug filing system where I don’t get to see the progress in a transparent manner or that I might have to pay for a developer account to see that progress (assuming that’s an option)

- I’m not wasting my time emailing a top level company executive to inform of decades old most basic of bugs because if they don’t know of it then that’s even a bigger problem.

Re:It's virtually impossible to read old iMessages and they ... by saagarjha on Friday May 28, 2021 @10:15PM (#27322548)
Use https://feedbackassistant.apple.com/ instead, it has a mildly better chance of being read.
Re:It's virtually impossible to read old iMessages and they ... by germinalphrase on Friday May 28, 2021 @09:08PM (#27322269)
I’m somewhat surprised that acknowledging outside emails is a thing. I know unsolicited ideas/content/etc. is commonly rejected without review in other fields. Is this successful beyond identifying technical bugs?
Re:It's virtually impossible to read old iMessages and they ... by cryptoz on Friday May 28, 2021 @05:05PM (#27320494)
Re:It's virtually impossible to read old iMessages and they ... by JMTQp8lwXL on Friday May 28, 2021 @06:41PM (#27321377)
Seems like a humble choice for an executive to not take <firstname>@corp.com.
Re:It's virtually impossible to read old iMessages and they ... by eric_h on Friday May 28, 2021 @06:50PM (#27321442)
I was under the impression that Steve Jobs’ was [email protected]
Re:It's virtually impossible to read old iMessages and they ... by alisonkisk on Friday May 28, 2021 @06:54PM (#27321467)
"steve" was a collision from the start.
Re:It's virtually impossible to read old iMessages and they ... by dkarras on Friday May 28, 2021 @07:29PM (#27321707)
I could imagine Steve Wozniak offering to use surnames only as a joke - because that wouldn't work either.
Re:It's virtually impossible to read old iMessages and they ... by lostlogin on Saturday May 29, 2021 @12:24AM (#27323013)
It would probably work better for the two Steves than it would for many others. According to the below random site, there 218 Jobs and 10,602 Wozniaks. It claims 410,801 Steves.

http://howmanyofme.com/search/

Re:It's virtually impossible to read old iMessages and they ... by dkarras on Monday May 31, 2021 @06:38AM (#27342568)
Sorry my point was about [email protected] being the possible target of random job inquiries making the address unusable for Steve Jobs.
Re:It's virtually impossible to read old iMessages and they ... by lostlogin on Saturday May 29, 2021 @12:20AM (#27323004)
cook@apple is appealing somehow.
Re:It's virtually impossible to read old iMessages and they ... by spenvo on Friday May 28, 2021 @05:16PM (#27320621)
thanks cryptoz
Re:It's virtually impossible to read old iMessages and they ... by cryptoz on Friday May 28, 2021 @04:21PM (#27320004)
Related, I emailed Tim Cook about iPhone sensor future plans, and a high-level exec of like 25+ years wrote back to me within a week. Apple is remarkably good at getting back to cold emails to top execs.
Re:It's virtually impossible to read old iMessages and they ... by quickthrowman on Friday May 28, 2021 @05:16PM (#27320623)
Interesting, perhaps I’ll cold email them about the pinned contact feature in iMessage being totally worthless.

If it just pinned the message thread to the top and didn’t change the icon to a giant circle that sometimes doesn’t show notifications, it’d be fine. I pinned my GF’s message thread and I ended up missing lots of messages and notifications from her and ended up unpinning her so the notifications would show up.

Not to mention the comically huge circle icon that is centered when everything else is left aligned.

Re:It's virtually impossible to read old iMessages and they ... by fiddlerwoaroof on Friday May 28, 2021 @06:08PM (#27321104)
Interesting, I love the way pinned threads are implemented, especially the big circles
Re:It's virtually impossible to read old iMessages and they ... by 650REDHAIR on Friday May 28, 2021 @05:26PM (#27320717)
I found pinned messages on Monday. I've now unpinned things.

It only made things worse :(

Re:It's virtually impossible to read old iMessages and they ... by upbeat_general on Saturday May 29, 2021 @05:13AM (#27324006)
Same here. Shocked that managed to get past an initial beta.

It defeats the entire purpose of pinning.

Re:It's virtually impossible to read old iMessages and they ... by dave_aiello on Friday May 28, 2021 @06:00PM (#27321022)
I concur with that.

I had a problem that appeared to be a corner case with Apple Pay. I wrote a paper letter to Tim Cook about it, and within a week got contacted by a staff person in his office. He worked exclusively with me to identify issues I had not considered, and followed up on all of the direct effects and side effects until they were resolved.

Re:It's virtually impossible to read old iMessages and they ... by 4f77616973 on Friday May 28, 2021 @06:29PM (#27321275)
I emailed Craig about several controversies and he was very quick to reply to me. We last talked about the rumor that Apple was giving iPhones trust scores.
Re:It's virtually impossible to read old iMessages and they ... by shitRETARDSsay on Friday May 28, 2021 @09:19PM (#27322330)
Seconded, I wrote about an issue I encountered on facetime and I was sent many iPhones to test how widespread the problem was.
Re:It's virtually impossible to read old iMessages and they ... by just-ok on Friday May 28, 2021 @05:22PM (#27320672)
If you can remember a term, any term, that was written in the message, you can search & jump to it directly. For my girlfriend and I, it was the bar we went to on our first date. This feature only gives you small subsets (a couple dozen, maybe) messages near the query result, but then you can just search for the last message again and get the next “page,” so to speak. Of course, remembering such a term is hard, which is what I assume you mean by “search for old messages is unreliable,” but it’s at least a possible workaround.
Re:It's virtually impossible to read old iMessages and they ... by Arcuru on Friday May 28, 2021 @06:09PM (#27321111)
In the article they say that they have a screenshot of their first several messages and have tried to search for the text in the screenshot.
Re:It's virtually impossible to read old iMessages and they ... by just-ok on Saturday May 29, 2021 @10:51PM (#27330211)
Hm, yet I have no problem searching phrases that go back at least five years.. I would say the burden of proof is on the author here to extract the database from the phone and prove that the messages didn’t get deleted, lost in an upgrade, or otherwise cleaned up.
Re:It's virtually impossible to read old iMessages and they ... by mdoms on Friday May 28, 2021 @09:36PM (#27322402)
Please, please just read the article before posting. Please.