Re:Google says Rowhammer attacks are gaining range as RAM is...
by CobaltFire on Friday May 28, 2021 @02:13PM
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Article title is slightly misleading: by smaller they mean process size, increasing the range of the rowhammer attacks logically due to decreased distance between memory cells even though the physics limited distance is the same.
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Re:Google says Rowhammer attacks are gaining range as RAM is...
by a1369209993 on Friday May 28, 2021 @02:59PM
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"Rowhammer attacks are gaining range as RAM is getting denser"?
Re:Google says Rowhammer attacks are gaining range as RAM is...
by dang on Friday May 28, 2021 @04:32PM
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Ok, let's try that above. Thanks!
Re:Google says Rowhammer attacks are gaining range as RAM is...
by campuscodi on Friday May 28, 2021 @02:43PM
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I'm the author of the article.
With all due respect, but I will have to push back on your categorization as 'slightly misleading' here. Your explanation effectively explains the headline and is also what Google researchers said. How is the headline misleading?
Re:Google says Rowhammer attacks are gaining range as RAM is...
by manquer on Friday May 28, 2021 @03:06PM
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I don't think it is misleading entirely, however my first reaction was you meant smaller in storage capacity or physical size of stick this interpretation is not uncommon and can cause some confusion
Re:Google says Rowhammer attacks are gaining range as RAM is...
by ma2rten on Friday May 28, 2021 @02:50PM
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When I initially read the headline I thought for a second that it meant storage capacity is getting smaller. But then I realized that that doesn't make sense and it's referring to process size.
Re:Google says Rowhammer attacks are gaining range as RAM is...
by cortesoft on Friday May 28, 2021 @03:02PM
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Not sure how you could have read it that way... storage capacity is clearly not getting smaller.
Re:Google says Rowhammer attacks are gaining range as RAM is...
by manquer on Friday May 28, 2021 @03:10PM
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I had similar thoughts as the parent, then your point came to my mind, next thing I thought was perhaps not storage capacity but maybe smaller form factor of the stick itself.
Clearly I was wrong, but confusion can happen with just saying "smaller", many meanings are there for that word.
Re:Google says Rowhammer attacks are gaining range as RAM is...
by hughw on Friday May 28, 2021 @04:02PM
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Not intentionally misleading, of course. But I too first misinterpreted "RAM is getting smaller" as RAM that has smaller storage, which is counter to experience. But that's the size dimension I confront in everyday life, not the physical dimensions of the chip. I knew I must not be getting it, but I didn't think of the physical size until I read the article.
Re:Google says Rowhammer attacks are gaining range as RAM is...
by comboy on Friday May 28, 2021 @04:17PM
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I also read it that way and the paper does not use that phrase. I'm not saying intentionally misleading, but clearly some people were mislead.
Re:Google says Rowhammer attacks are gaining range as RAM is...
by CobaltFire on Friday May 28, 2021 @04:40PM
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Misleading may have been the wrong word, though I will say I qualified it with slightly.
The changed title is much more informative.
Re:Google says Rowhammer attacks are gaining range as RAM is...
by dnautics on Friday May 28, 2021 @04:08PM
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Slightly confusing is better verbiage. I had to think for a sec (I have had cache memory on the mind, which is "smaller" than main memory).
Re:Google says Rowhammer attacks are gaining range as RAM is...
by singlow on Friday May 28, 2021 @03:19PM
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Definitely not misleading. Possibly easy to misunderstand? It did take me a second to realize what was meant.
Re:Google says Rowhammer attacks are gaining range as RAM is...
by mhh__ on Friday May 28, 2021 @02:46PM
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As opposed to what other interpretation of the word small?
Re:Google says Rowhammer attacks are gaining range as RAM is...
by a1369209993 on Friday May 28, 2021 @03:00PM
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Small RAM: memory with (relatively) few bytes of storage.