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Re:Twitter confirms Twitter Blue by Zababa on Friday May 28, 2021 @11:05AM (#27316244)
$3 for color themes and a reader mode? I don't like how it creates negative incentives to make regular twitter readable. I often see poeple here already complaining that threads are hard to read, and this could make it worse.

Edit: also quick undo. So they are monetizing the lack of basic features and their restrictions on clients. I don't really like the idea.

Re:Twitter confirms Twitter Blue by fernandotakai on Friday May 28, 2021 @11:19AM (#27316425)
honestly, if they take out the ads and stopped selling my data, i would pay 3 USD without any issues.
Re:Twitter confirms Twitter Blue by setBoolean on Friday May 28, 2021 @11:34AM (#27316624)
That and an option to permanently opt out of their curation of my timeline. I just want to see the content of people I actually follow in a chronological fashion.

At the moment I‘am quiet happy using Tweetbot but most 3rd party clients are hampered due to API restrictions on Twitters side.

Re:Twitter confirms Twitter Blue by scioto on Friday May 28, 2021 @04:28PM (#27320095)
I also use Tweetbot, and am experiencing very little of what everybody else is complaining about. I see only my timeline, and I use lists to make sure I don't miss anything from certain people I follow.

Tweetbot has had mute longer than Twitter has, and some, um, acquaintances I follow I've had muted for years. And I mute keywords if something is getting way too much play, like the electric F-150.

Will I pay Twitter $3/month? Sure, since I'd like to pay for what I use, just like I subscribe to the latest Tweetbot client. Will I use the Twitter client to get the benefits of Twitter Blue? Probably not.

Re:Twitter confirms Twitter Blue by fernandotakai on Friday May 28, 2021 @11:36AM (#27316667)
one way to force chronological is to add everyone you follow to a private list.

even on official clients, it's always chronological and no ads -- but it's not perfect.

Re:Twitter confirms Twitter Blue by jpindar on Friday May 28, 2021 @06:01PM (#27321029)
All you have to do for that is to use Tweetdeck.
Re:Twitter confirms Twitter Blue by setBoolean on Saturday May 29, 2021 @03:02PM (#27327458)
I use Tweetdeck extensively on macOS but on mobile even as a web app it just isn‘t nearly as polished as a native app like Tweetbot.
Re:Twitter confirms Twitter Blue by bogwog on Friday May 28, 2021 @03:04PM (#27319253)
Same. I don't even use or like Twitter, but with an offer like that I totally would.
Re:Twitter confirms Twitter Blue by littledot5566 on Saturday May 29, 2021 @09:22PM (#27329782)
Your data is worth way more than $3
Re:Twitter confirms Twitter Blue by dschep on Friday May 28, 2021 @12:40PM (#27317554)
Doesn't twitter already have themes [0]? Or is it more than just the accent color?

[0] https://twitter.com/i/display

Re:Twitter confirms Twitter Blue by vishnugupta on Friday May 28, 2021 @12:13PM (#27317207)
This is just the beginning. They could add more features right? Similar to how Amazon Prime began as free 2-day shipping and then added Prime Video and what not.
Re:Twitter confirms Twitter Blue by manquer on Friday May 28, 2021 @02:57PM (#27319185)
Free 2 day shipping had still enormous value to many. Further additions to value also indirectly resulted in prices increasing over time.

I can't think of a reason why any one is going to pay for this ? If they at least marked users as "Blue" like verified perhaps the social status would drive sales, right now there doesn't seem to be any incentive all.

Re:Twitter confirms Twitter Blue by toyg on Friday May 28, 2021 @11:40AM (#27316731)
> threads are hard to read

Twitter threads must die, they are an oxymoron and a fugly hack. Just bloody give people a "gist.twitter.io" for long form, or something like that, for goodness' sake.

Re:Twitter confirms Twitter Blue by Nav_Panel on Friday May 28, 2021 @11:48AM (#27316838)
The "point" or benefit of a twitter thread as opposed to straightforward longform is that each tweet (sentence or paragraph) can stand alone (in terms of liked and retweet circulation) as well as being a part of a broader piece.
Re:Twitter confirms Twitter Blue by toyg on Friday May 28, 2021 @11:51AM (#27316885)
"Can" or rather "could", but never really does in practice. Take away the thread, and 99.99% of mid-thread tweets lose all meaning. It just makes things awkward for the sake of it.
Re:Twitter confirms Twitter Blue by Nav_Panel on Friday May 28, 2021 @11:52AM (#27316905)
It's funny, I mean, you're not wrong, but there was a period when I wrote a lot of twitter threads, and I enjoyed the challenge of making each tweet stand alone. I think it made me a better writer. But yes, many don't take advantage of this.
Re:Twitter confirms Twitter Blue by gaius_baltar on Friday May 28, 2021 @12:06PM (#27317104)
Well, these mid-thread tweets can still be taken out of context and used to create sh*tstorms.
Re:Twitter confirms Twitter Blue by ghaff on Friday May 28, 2021 @11:56AM (#27316945)
I don't completely disagree but the point is mostly two-fold (which are related to your point).

1. Discoverability and engagement.

2. A tweet thread tends to be more conversational than a blog post and therefore can be more off the cuff (and therefore easier).

Re:Twitter confirms Twitter Blue by Zababa on Friday May 28, 2021 @12:04PM (#27317074)
Some people here will probably remember twitlonger, which wasn't that great. That or posting screenshots of text. I think threads, the idea, are fine; but the implementation is not good. I don't understand why, when you load a tweet in a thread that's not too long (< 50 tweets), Twitter refuses to just show the whole threads and makes you click "show more" every 5 tweets. That's a really bad UX.