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Re:Safari tries to fill username by jwr on Friday May 28, 2021 @09:18AM (#27314982)
In these cases, it makes sense to point people to NIST Special Publication 800-63B (Digital Identity Guidelines) https://pages.nist.gov/800-63-3/sp800-63b.html — their guidelines are pretty good and eliminate much of the braindead nonsense that is considered "accepted practice in the industry".
Re:Safari tries to fill username by gnud on Friday May 28, 2021 @10:13AM (#27315546)
Nice read! Specifically, under 10.1:

> Offer the option to display text during entry, as masked text entry is error-prone.

And under 10.2.1:

> Support copy and paste functionality in fields for entering memorized secrets, including passphrases.

(... snip ...)

> Allow at least 64 characters in length to support the use of passphrases. Encourage users to make memorized secrets as lengthy as they want, using any characters they like (including spaces), thus aiding memorization. Do not impose other composition rules (e.g. mixtures of different character types) on memorized secrets. Do not require that memorized secrets be changed arbitrarily (e.g., periodically) unless there is a user request or evidence of authenticator compromise. (See Section 5.1.1 for additional information).

Re:Safari tries to fill username by vunuxodo on Friday May 28, 2021 @10:10AM (#27315518)
Taken to the extreme is the US Government's TreasuryDirect website, where individuals can buy savings bonds. Instead of allowing you to type your password, they render a "virtual keyboard" that you have to use your mouse to click the keys one by one.

Oh, and that password? Not case sensitive.

Re:Safari tries to fill username by jolux on Friday May 28, 2021 @10:22AM (#27315631)
> Oh, and that password? Not case sensitive.

What, you expect them to make a case-sensitive version of NTFS just to store your password??

Re:Safari tries to fill username by emodendroket on Friday May 28, 2021 @10:55AM (#27316086)
NTFS is case-sensitive.
Re:Safari tries to fill username by Agent766 on Friday May 28, 2021 @11:10AM (#27316312)
They made a case-insensitive version of NTFS just to store your password
Re:Safari tries to fill username by bradknowles on Saturday May 29, 2021 @01:31AM (#27323270)
It is case-preserving, but not case-sensitive.

So, it will show you what was entered and make you think it’s case-sensitive, but then when you go to do the comparison, it actually ignores case.

The stupid thing is that MacOS was also case-preserving but not case-sensitive for a long time.

Re:Safari tries to fill username by nathell on Sunday May 30, 2021 @06:20AM (#27332122)
APFS still defaults to case-preserving:

    [nathell@macmini /tmp]$ echo first > A
    [nathell@macmini /tmp]$ echo second > a
    [nathell@macmini /tmp]$ cat A
    second
Re:Safari tries to fill username by emodendroket on Sunday May 30, 2021 @04:43PM (#27336549)
That's how Windows will behave but not actually how the underlying filesystem does.
Re:Safari tries to fill username by jolux on Friday May 28, 2021 @11:36AM (#27316645)
I think it’s internally case sensitive and provides case insensitive APIs to users, right?
Re:Safari tries to fill username by Barracoon on Friday May 28, 2021 @11:54AM (#27316930)
Right, win32 is insensitive
Re:Safari tries to fill username by ratcline on Sunday May 30, 2021 @05:35PM (#27337071)
I heard that systems like this were designed when there was a point in time(this may just be erroneous and such a time never actually existed) where keyloggers were more common than RATs, so government websites would often have this requirement due to the higher probability of access from public computers(library, etc), since that was also a point in time when fewer people had their own at home.
Re:Safari tries to fill username by Slump on Friday May 28, 2021 @02:36PM (#27318961)
Hard to believe it requires a mouse. The government (everyone really but especially the government) generally would need to follow basic ADA guidelines...
Re:Safari tries to fill username by juped on Friday May 28, 2021 @02:08PM (#27318642)
Yes, the authors of that document did an great public service in letting us point to an "official government standard".