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Re:Tesla loses U.S. designation for some advanced safety fea... by nradov on Thursday May 27, 2021 @03:09PM (#27306862)
And it is possible to meet NHTSA certification requirements for recommended safety technology with vision-only systems. Subaru has done that for years.
Re:Tesla loses U.S. designation for some advanced safety fea... by harles on Thursday May 27, 2021 @03:18PM (#27306981)
Doesn’t Subaru use stereo vision though? Having depth cues and not having them seems like a pretty big distinction, and Tesla just removed their only source of depth.
Re:Tesla loses U.S. designation for some advanced safety fea... by bradfitz on Thursday May 27, 2021 @03:24PM (#27307050)
Tesla has multiple cameras on the front.

See: https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a36542541/tesla-model-3-mo...

Re:Tesla loses U.S. designation for some advanced safety fea... by harles on Thursday May 27, 2021 @03:30PM (#27307130)
Multiple cameras don’t equate to stereo though. As I understand it, the Tesla cameras have too little overlap and the distortion is too great to do proper stereo - it’s 100% monocular depth estimation.
Re:Tesla loses U.S. designation for some advanced safety fea... by snypher on Thursday May 27, 2021 @03:44PM (#27307323)
They don't seem very far apart in the Tesla..

https://st.motortrend.com/uploads/sites/5/2017/07/Tesla-Mode...

The Subaru cameras are either side of the mirror, probably much more effective for stereo vision.

Re:Tesla loses U.S. designation for some advanced safety fea... by mtnpuma on Friday May 28, 2021 @02:07AM (#27312226)
Subaru Eyesight cameras look different though, they’re further apart. See https://images.app.goo.gl/vAJJ7JuV1cmTaymA8
Re:Tesla loses U.S. designation for some advanced safety fea... by Forbo on Thursday May 27, 2021 @03:19PM (#27306992)
They won't know that it meets the requirements until it has been tested, so putting this clarification out in the meantime covers the gap until vision-only testing has completed.
Re:Tesla loses U.S. designation for some advanced safety fea... by Alex3917 on Thursday May 27, 2021 @03:35PM (#27307187)
Teslas are basically just overpriced knockoff Subarus that don't actually work properly. The independent testing data has shown this for years, e.g.: https://www.caranddriver.com/features/a24511826/safety-featu...