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Re:Collusion rings threaten the integrity of computer scienc... by encryptluks2 on Wednesday May 26, 2021 @08:07PM (#27297732)
Anytime I see a job description that mentions the world "hustle", and trust me there are quite a few in tech, I immediately discard it... but this description of the culture portrays it more accurately that I could have put into words. I think I shall bring it up next time I see a job description like this and let them know that is the impression they are giving.
Re:Collusion rings threaten the integrity of computer scienc... by jollybean on Wednesday May 26, 2021 @09:16PM (#27298228)
Even though I share your cynicism, 'A Hustle' is very different from 'Having Hustle' i.e. the noun means something from the adjective.

Having 'hustle' is actually important at a startup, it's part of the essential aspect of it. I'd argue a 'hacker' has a kind of hustle.

I'm pretty suspicious of these things as well, but I've also come to believe in my many years that a bit of koolaid is fine as long as it has self awareness.

I wish Elon would stop posting all the stupid things he does, but I think that's what you get with 'all the other stuff'.

If Elon were fully polite, conscientious, a 'good listener' I'm not sure Tesla would exist. So we pay for the existence of Tesla by accepting that he's going to do dumb tweets about Crytocoins.

Re:Collusion rings threaten the integrity of computer scienc... by wolverine876 on Thursday May 27, 2021 @12:12AM (#27299327)
> If Elon were fully polite, conscientious, a 'good listener' I'm not sure Tesla would exist.

I think that's a BS excuse for bad behavior. How would being polite and concientious harm Tesla? It's simply that he has power and has low standards for his behavior.

I know plenty of successful people who do what Musk fails to do.

Re:Collusion rings threaten the integrity of computer scienc... by jollybean on Thursday May 27, 2021 @02:13AM (#27299934)
"I know plenty of successful people who do what Musk fails to do. "

Except you don't know any successful people who've remotely done what he's done either.

Talking about 'Dogecoin' is a little unseemly, but it's nowhere in the realm of 'toxic' or 'bad acting'

Without massive public support and sympathy, Telsa wouldn't exist, it's a movement as much as anything, and so you need kind of a showman.

His appearances on SNL etc. are part of that public drama that keeps Tesla stock going with enough support to keep the legitimacy of the dream alive.

I'm seriously doubtful that a quiet, unassuming person would have been able to do most of that.

Expressive, bombastic characters will by virtue of the volume of their actions, sometimes creep up to the line. It's normal. There's nothing wrong with Elon, he's just a little cheezy and spouts too hard with some things.