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Re:Belarus 'diverts Ryanair flight to arrest journalist', op... by whimsicalism on Monday May 24, 2021 @01:38PM (#27267329)
> most citizens actually prefer for it to work the way it does currently, rather than not at all.

This is a terrible defense for forcing down the planes of people taking political asylum. The choice is not between disrespecting asylum or not having any justice system whatsoever, and it is ridiculous to suggest so.

> And I'd rather see Snowden face the music than defect to the Russian intelligence services

Ah yes, the classic strategy of defecting to Russian intelligence services by leaving Russia to go to Bolivia.

Re:Belarus 'diverts Ryanair flight to arrest journalist', op... by bayesian_horse on Tuesday May 25, 2021 @01:16AM (#27272843)
I have not defended forcing down planes in the case of Belarus. More so in the case of the US persuing claims that other nations agree too.

Snowden said he wanted to go to Bolivia... There is no proof he actually intended to go there or that the Russians wouldn't be waiting to work with him there.

Regardless of Snowden's original intentions, he has no power to refuse cooperation with Russian intelligence services. At the very least, he has been trotted out for propaganda reasons like a trained pony. So in essence, yes, he ultimately defected by not standing trial.

Re:Belarus 'diverts Ryanair flight to arrest journalist', op... by whimsicalism on Tuesday May 25, 2021 @12:19PM (#27278759)
> More so in the case of the US persuing claims that other nations agree too.

And other nations disagree with. Is this not the same as in the Belarusian situation?

> he has no power to refuse cooperation with Russian intelligence services

I don't think it is true that Snowden has no leverage whatsoever. Moreover, what is the evidence? What is the evidence that he is being trotted out for propaganda reasons? What is the evidence he has leaked all this information to the FSB?

Re:Belarus 'diverts Ryanair flight to arrest journalist', op... by bayesian_horse on Wednesday May 26, 2021 @02:29AM (#27287113)
It's naive to believe the FSB (or others) wouldn't use him however they wanted. Snowden has absolutely zero leverage. He can be deported to the US at any time, and Putin has proven he isn't above killing virtually anyone, no matter the public profile.

And I remember that fake Q&A session with Putin were Snowden asked a question about surveillance of their own people and Putin basically said that the Russian state would never ever do such a horrible thing. It's almost funny.