Re:Baltic airlines reroute flights to avoid Belarus airspace
by ceejayoz on Monday May 24, 2021 @06:21AM
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How will you know if the answer to this is honest or censored, though?
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Re:Baltic airlines reroute flights to avoid Belarus airspace
by thinkingemote on Monday May 24, 2021 @06:23AM
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For the Chinese you can tell when they cannot even refer to, say or admit certain things: e.g. massacres. But they would say "we are not being censored"
For China and Russia, etc, it feels as if by mocking the hypocrisy of the West they are naively assuming that there's no such criticism from within the West.
I think this is revealing but I might be wrong.
Re:Baltic airlines reroute flights to avoid Belarus airspace
by kofejnik on Monday May 24, 2021 @07:09AM
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> For the Chinese you can tell when they cannot even refer to, say or admit certain things: e.g. massacres. But they would say "we are not being censored"
It is exactly the same in Russia, you may not mention certain historical facts at all, e.g. Germany-USSR cooperation during 1939-1941
Re:Baltic airlines reroute flights to avoid Belarus airspace
by little_panda on Monday May 24, 2021 @09:34AM
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As a native Russian I do remember learning about the said cooperation in school in the 2000s
Re:Baltic airlines reroute flights to avoid Belarus airspace
by nzmsv on Monday May 24, 2021 @07:47AM
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That's why there is a Russian language Wikipedia article about said cooperation: https://ru.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Договор_о_ненападении_между_... and that article cites a number of print books.
Re:Baltic airlines reroute flights to avoid Belarus airspace
by ceejayoz on Monday May 24, 2021 @07:53AM
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To be fair, that's likely neither hosted in Russia nor exclusively edited by Russian residents.
The Chinese Wikipedia has an article on the 1989 Tienanmen Square massacre, for example. I would assume it's not available in China. https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E5%85%AD%E5%9B%9B%E4%BA%8B%E4...
Re:Baltic airlines reroute flights to avoid Belarus airspace
by YarickR2 on Monday May 24, 2021 @07:52AM
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Well, this is fine example of so-called "lie", plain and simple. You may mention it, and often it is being mentioned by all kinds of media. Things that really are frowned upon are highly controversial topics like alleged mass raping by the Red Army in Germany during WW2 . Other than that, no holds are barred, and things are discussed freely; I'd say hot topics are more frequent in Russian media than in the US one ; but clearly hotness and level of controversy is different in two blocs
Re:Baltic airlines reroute flights to avoid Belarus airspace
by ceejayoz on Monday May 24, 2021 @09:20AM
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It seems you're quibbling on which topics can't be talked about, not that there are some.
Re:Baltic airlines reroute flights to avoid Belarus airspace
by vbezhenar on Monday May 24, 2021 @04:39PM
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Many countries have forbidden topics. Try to question whether holocaust was real in EU.
Re:Baltic airlines reroute flights to avoid Belarus airspace
by kofejnik on Monday May 24, 2021 @09:42AM
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if you're still in Russia, try posting some photos of 1939 Brest-Litovsk parade on your VK page, we'll watch from afar how it goes for you
Re:Baltic airlines reroute flights to avoid Belarus airspace
by kofejnik on Tuesday May 25, 2021 @05:12AM
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no, like post it to your VK and write "USSR cooperated with Nazis to divide and occupy Poland"
Re:Baltic airlines reroute flights to avoid Belarus airspace
by def_true_false on Monday May 24, 2021 @02:32PM
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Alleged?
Re:Baltic airlines reroute flights to avoid Belarus airspace
by golergka on Monday May 24, 2021 @08:14AM
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You can google my username, and get my social network accounts for the last 20 years, and a lot of details me and even my family, wikipedia article about my grandfather and his history in USSR, and so on. And then ask yourself if state propaganda would go to such trouble for a couple of comments. It's not doxing, I wouldn't use it if I wasn't completely okay with that.