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Re:An early look at Postgres 14: Performance and monitoring ... by gogopuppygogo on Saturday May 22, 2021 @04:21PM (#27249943)
Cockroach is the worst brand for a database ever.

Even Croach would be a massive branding improvement.

This is similar to how gimp is a terrible brand.

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Re:An early look at Postgres 14: Performance and monitoring ... by zaius on Saturday May 22, 2021 @10:53PM (#27252044)
It’s no coincidence - the names for Cockroach and GIMP were coined by the same person https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spencer_Kimball_(computer_pr...
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Re:An early look at Postgres 14: Performance and monitoring ... by fshr on Sunday May 23, 2021 @07:13PM (#27259488)
Well that explains a lot. Imagine the success of all his work had it had better branding.
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Re:An early look at Postgres 14: Performance and monitoring ... by toomanybeersies on Sunday May 23, 2021 @12:16PM (#27256154)
Let's add Git and Kafka to that list.
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Re:An early look at Postgres 14: Performance and monitoring ... by meesterdude on Saturday May 22, 2021 @04:45PM (#27250104)
I mean... the WORST? For me Mongo takes the cake, but oracle is up there too.
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Re:An early look at Postgres 14: Performance and monitoring ... by zdragnar on Saturday May 22, 2021 @04:55PM (#27250192)
Really? Oracle actually makes a lot of sense to me for a database name (in the 'source of truth' sense, not in the prophet sense).

Mongo, on the other hand, has definitely always had the racist/ablist slur as the first connotation for me.

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Re:An early look at Postgres 14: Performance and monitoring ... by whatshisface on Saturday May 22, 2021 @05:51PM (#27250593)
I've learned almost all the slurs I know from comments or media sources complaining about them. It's the only place they're used in polite society.
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Re:An early look at Postgres 14: Performance and monitoring ... by zdragnar on Saturday May 22, 2021 @09:12PM (#27251653)
It isn't really a surprise in this case since both ethnic Mongolians and those with Downs syndrome are not in many Americans' social circles.

"Almost all" does sound like a bit of a surprise, but thinking back on it the only one I know for a fact I heard for the first time outside of a corrective context was my elder uncles friends who enjoyed self-depreciating jokes, usually with slurs for eastern Europeans in them. I first heard those as a child and only realized years later they were offensive. Most others, I think, I honestly have no idea when i was first exposed to them.

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Re:An early look at Postgres 14: Performance and monitoring ... by tgv on Sunday May 23, 2021 @03:10AM (#27253001)
Mongo and mongol don't have a close relationship: the final syllable is entirely different.
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Re:An early look at Postgres 14: Performance and monitoring ... by whatshisface on Sunday May 23, 2021 @01:40PM (#27256896)
It's implied that someone is going around calling people with Down's syndrome "Mongos." "Mongol" is an actual non-offensive[0] word which means, unsurprisingly, someone who can trace their lineage back to the area around Mongolia.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mongols (If it's used descriptively on Wikipedia, it's probably not considered offensive.)

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Re:An early look at Postgres 14: Performance and monitoring ... by randomswede on Monday May 24, 2021 @03:48AM (#27261955)
Mongol is not (as far as I am aware) an offensive word. Mongoloid[0] (which "mongo" is a shortened form of) in reference to people with Down Syndrome, definitely is.

My pet theory is that the database is named after a character in "Blazing Saddles", and I want to be able to store candy in it.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Down_syndrome#Name

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Re:An early look at Postgres 14: Performance and monitoring ... by jasonwatkinspdx on Sunday May 23, 2021 @02:23AM (#27252850)
This says more about you than the baseline.
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Re:An early look at Postgres 14: Performance and monitoring ... by robertfw on Saturday May 22, 2021 @08:23PM (#27251429)
Then perhaps count yourself lucky to not have had some of these used against you.
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Re:An early look at Postgres 14: Performance and monitoring ... by jjazwiecki on Saturday May 22, 2021 @11:36PM (#27252219)
I always thought it was a reference to valuable stuff picked from trash, which I understood to be slang from sanitation workers, but apparently that's local to the NYC area.
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Re:An early look at Postgres 14: Performance and monitoring ... by Traubenfuchs on Sunday May 23, 2021 @05:54AM (#27253751)
I don't know about other languages, but in German "Mongo" is pretty much a forbidden word as it is derogative descriptor for people with down syndrom and other visible defects, especially movement defects.
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Re:An early look at Postgres 14: Performance and monitoring ... by goatinaboat on Sunday May 23, 2021 @07:15AM (#27254168)
I don't know about other languages, but in German "Mongo" is pretty much a forbidden word as it is derogative descriptor for people with down syndrom and other visible defects, especially movement defects.

In the UK that would be "mong", for us Mongo is the planet Ming The Merciless is from.

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