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Re:San Francisco’s Shoplifting Surge by calvinmorrison on Friday May 21, 2021 @08:04PM (#27241593)
In fact they sell these noise makers, they're called BoomSticks and they also launch lethal projectiles.
Re:San Francisco’s Shoplifting Surge by dmoy on Friday May 21, 2021 @08:08PM (#27241646)
In most (all?) US localities, you can't legally shoot someone for stealing stuff from your store.
Re:San Francisco’s Shoplifting Surge by tzs on Saturday May 22, 2021 @10:28AM (#27246847)
You generally can't shot them right off the bat, but in most places you can use non-deadly force to defend property, and if the thief responds by threatening you with death or great bodily harm, you can then use deadly force.

In some states, if you reasonably fear that using non-deadly force to stop someone from committing arson, burglary, robbery, or felonious property destruction would put you in danger of serious bodily harm, you can skip straight to deadly force.

Here's a summary from Eugene Volokh [1].

[1] https://reason.com/volokh/2020/06/02/are-people-allowed-to-u...

Re:San Francisco’s Shoplifting Surge by voldacar on Saturday May 22, 2021 @04:33PM (#27250020)
Thanks for posting something actually written by a lawyer.
Re:San Francisco’s Shoplifting Surge by tinyhouse on Friday May 21, 2021 @08:12PM (#27241690)
That's good! Deadly force should only be used to prevent serious physical harm. It should be pretty easy to trace those people and put them in jail. But I'm sure the SF police didn't even bother.
Re:San Francisco’s Shoplifting Surge by dmoy on Friday May 21, 2021 @08:16PM (#27241733)
Does SF prosecute petty theft? In Seattle we mostly don't, and haven't for years. As a result, there's usually not much point for police to put petty thieves in jail.

I'm not even sure they investigate/prosecute class C felony theft here much anymore. Above $5,000 stolen (class B felony theft), and then maybe there's a case.

Re:San Francisco’s Shoplifting Surge by staticassertion on Friday May 21, 2021 @08:20PM (#27241773)
I think it's a misdemeanor here.
Re:San Francisco’s Shoplifting Surge by ultimoo on Friday May 21, 2021 @11:53PM (#27243273)
Unfortunately it's less about the police not bothering and more about the DA not bothering.

See https://stanfordreview.org/chesa-boudin-san-francisco-crime/

Re:San Francisco’s Shoplifting Surge by calvinmorrison on Friday May 21, 2021 @08:20PM (#27241780)
Yes this is called anarcho-tyranny.