Re:2022 Ford F-150 Lightning
by andys627 on Friday May 21, 2021 @11:50AM
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Remember the emissions to manufacture the vehicle... they're higher for EVs. Lifecycle emissions for EVs therefore aren't much lower than ICE.
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Re:2022 Ford F-150 Lightning
by bryanlarsen on Friday May 21, 2021 @11:57AM
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The lifetime emissions for EVs are massively lower than ICE's, unless the EV gets totalled in its first year of operation.
They are maybe 40-50% lower. Does this move the needle for climate change? No. And it’s not just lifetime car emissions. It’s the car dependent life that cars require
Source: https://www.greencarreports.com/news/1129478_lifetime-carbon...
Re:2022 Ford F-150 Lightning
by bryanlarsen on Friday May 21, 2021 @04:53PM
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It's only 50% lower because most electricity grids emit a lot of carbon. Once the grid switches to 100% carbon-free, the number becomes a lot lower. And most of the embodied carbon in the car comes from industrial electricity or transport, so as the grid & transport goes green the embodied carbon goes down, eventually to zero.
Electricity only accounts for about 25% of greenhouse gas emissions, but it also enables industry (20%) and transportation (15%) to decarbonize too, by allowing them to replace their fuel with electricity.
A 50% reduction is already massive, but electrification of both vehicles and the industrial processes creating the vehicle will eventually let that number go to zero which should be our goal.