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Re:Launch HN: YSplit (YC W19) – Automatically split and pay ... by jedberg on Thursday May 20, 2021 @02:28PM (#27225140)
What happens if one of four roommates doesn't pay their portion of the rent? Do you still make the payment?

I ask because the City of Berkeley for example tells their landlords to never accept multiple rent checks because it makes things complicated if only part of the rent is paid.

Re:Launch HN: YSplit (YC W19) – Automatically split and pay ... by johncessna on Thursday May 20, 2021 @05:36PM (#27227629)
It's more than just Berkeley.

The risk, on the landlord's part, of accepting a partial amount of rent is that you're altering the terms of the lease on the fly. If it persists you wave your ability to enforce the original agreement as you now have a history of acceptance of an alternative agreement.

There's also the discrimination aspect of it. If a landlord accepts partials from one tenant but not another, there's potential they'll have to explain themselves in court.

Re:Launch HN: YSplit (YC W19) – Automatically split and pay ... by jedberg on Thursday May 20, 2021 @05:42PM (#27227716)
Yeah, many cities do it, Berkeley just happens to be one I know of because I manage a property there.

The biggest risk is legal -- if you cash two of three checks for example, have you accepted partial rent? Can you evict for non-payment or did you just accept payment? Will the two people who paid fight the eviction? Can you evict just one tenant?

So many thorny issues you just don't want to deal with. So much simpler to say, "give me one check, it's either on time or not".

Re:Launch HN: YSplit (YC W19) – Automatically split and pay ... by tonikami on Thursday May 20, 2021 @03:08PM (#27225663)
We wait for everyone to pay their portion before making the payments to the merchant/landlord. I hadn't heard about the City of Berkeley doing that, thanks for sharing!
Re:Launch HN: YSplit (YC W19) – Automatically split and pay ... by onion2k on Thursday May 20, 2021 @04:03PM (#27226413)
We wait for everyone to pay their portion before making the payments to the merchant/landlord.

That seems very high risk. Back when I lived in shared houses I'd prefer to pay and then be reimbursed by whoever missed their share than have the rent paid late. Could users set up a discretionary fund that's used to cover missed payments from their friends?

Re:Launch HN: YSplit (YC W19) – Automatically split and pay ... by tonikami on Thursday May 20, 2021 @04:20PM (#27226649)
That's a great idea! We could maybe set up an optional deposit in the app to be used if someone forgets to pay their share. To deal with this in the app at the moment, we have a tonne of useful notifications reminding everyone to pay their share and an autopay option. But I definitely think your suggestion will come in handy as we scale.
Re:Launch HN: YSplit (YC W19) – Automatically split and pay ... by jedberg on Thursday May 20, 2021 @05:13PM (#27227358)
Or allow me to pay extra to cover someone else and then get refunded or get a credit towards my next bill or something. So I get a notification the day before rent is due telling me someone didn't pay yet, and then I can just pay for them so the bill isn't late.

Or you can get into the credit business and just pay the bill and charge that person a fee or interest. :)

Re:Launch HN: YSplit (YC W19) – Automatically split and pay ... by mbesto on Thursday May 20, 2021 @07:07PM (#27228568)
> Or you can get into the credit business and just pay the bill and charge that person a fee or interest.

This. I'm not in the category of sharing bills with roommates anymore, but do remember it well and it was a pain.

I'd rather deal with a tech company that can provide better customer service and float for me than a utility bill that loses my info or doesn't do auto-pay correctly.

So if your value proposition is:

- never miss a bill again (Ysplit pays up front for it)[0]

- never deal with customer service for a utility again

Then I think people would pay for that convenience.

[0] - you could do the reverse and have people pay up front and give a discount, then use that float for finances. See -> Venmo.