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Re:The whole freenode kerfluffle by michaelmrose on Thursday May 20, 2021 @10:59AM (#27221963)
Every organization in which the people have real autonomy and power is literally an invented arbitrary bureaucracy. You just invented a really long way to describe civilization.

People don't like it when money trumps all other factors in a concern that perceptively wasn't for sale and threats and dishonesty don't help either.

It appears that nearly everyone involved believes there is a problem including Lee who now needs new paid staff to run what is likely a dwindling community. It sounds like you have an ax to grind personally.

Re:The whole freenode kerfluffle by ok123456 on Thursday May 20, 2021 @11:18AM (#27222268)
Nah. I've seen much larger IRC networks run with a fraction of the officiousness and ornery behavior from freenode "staffers".

It's not a general problem with civilization needing "law and order" or whatever.

Re:The whole freenode kerfluffle by Macha on Thursday May 20, 2021 @11:42AM (#27222622)
Isn't Freenode the largest IRC network by a significant margin?

https://netsplit.de/networks/top10.php

Re:The whole freenode kerfluffle by pop11 on Thursday May 20, 2021 @01:10PM (#27223928)
Click 2005. Observe Y axis.
Re:The whole freenode kerfluffle by Macha on Thursday May 20, 2021 @02:09PM (#27224852)
I'm not sure early 00s IRC networks are a success story of light touch, politics free organisation.
Re:The whole freenode kerfluffle by ok123456 on Thursday May 20, 2021 @02:12PM (#27224897)
Those same networks are still functioning with much less proportionate overhead.

They're also much more technically competent. Look at how the different networks handled the cross-protocol exploit a few years back where a well crafted link could cause the browser to connect to irc and spam. Most other networks required a PING/PONG on connect so they weren't vulnerable. Of the networks that didn't, they were able to mitigate that within minutes to hours by either a simple configuration change or a firewall rule. Freenode was unable to do anything for months. Their solution was to rewrite their entire ircd and tell people not to complain about the spam.

Re:The whole freenode kerfluffle by michaelmrose on Thursday May 20, 2021 @11:23AM (#27222348)
Do you mean that you had an issue with freenode staff and now enjoy their discomfort.
Re:The whole freenode kerfluffle by ok123456 on Thursday May 20, 2021 @11:28AM (#27222411)
Personal attacks are off-topic on hackernews.