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Re:Joe Ligon: America's 'longest juvenile lifer' on 68 years... by Arainach on Saturday May 15, 2021 @01:08PM (#27166956)
For a mentally capable adult, perhaps. We have plenty of research to show that the brains of juveniles are wired differently. That doesn't mean no punishment, but it means that a life sentence is excessive and rehabilitation should be tried.
Re:Joe Ligon: America's 'longest juvenile lifer' on 68 years... by iratewizard on Saturday May 15, 2021 @01:20PM (#27167064)
The overwhelming majority of juveniles do not commit cold-blooded murder like this. Do you believe that this person is not a psychopath? Has any real ground been broken to take violent psychopaths and "cure" their condition? I've seen no evidence of this, and I don't see rehabilitation as anything more than a tool that is useful in certain circumstances.
Re:Joe Ligon: America's 'longest juvenile lifer' on 68 years... by alogray on Saturday May 15, 2021 @01:59PM (#27167411)
Most of us on here are in tech rather than psychiatry and not fit to make a call on whether someone is a psycopath, especially from a single article about them that doesn’t really focus on their mental state.
Re:Joe Ligon: America's 'longest juvenile lifer' on 68 years... by polartx on Saturday May 15, 2021 @01:33PM (#27167197)
When you think about it, there was enough complex decisions taking place to point towards a developed (albeit devoid of conscience) mind in control.

A childs reasoning would more likely follow this kind of path: Child wants alcohol->storekeeper has alcohol->child capable of coercion by force (ie stabbing)—>child gets alcohol from storekeeper

However, instead he did this: Young man wants alcohol->storekeeper has alcohol—>alcohol costs money that young man does not have—>innocent passerby’s have money—> young man capable of coercion by force (ie stabbing)—>young man stabs innocent passerby’s for their money—>Evaluate whether amount stolen is enough for alcohol, if not, repeat previous steps, if so—->young man gets alcohol from storekeeper

Good decisions are not proof of brain development, however complex ones are. Given the evidence I would say he was rightly judged as an adult.

Re:Joe Ligon: America's 'longest juvenile lifer' on 68 years... by daenz on Saturday May 15, 2021 @01:38PM (#27167239)
You make a good point, but I think there is a simpler argument for why he was rightfully tried as an adult: murder is an adult action.
Re:Joe Ligon: America's 'longest juvenile lifer' on 68 years... by alogray on Saturday May 15, 2021 @02:07PM (#27167480)
Are there crimes that are “juvenile actions”? Would adults who commit them be tried as juveniles given that it is a juvenile action?
Re:Joe Ligon: America's 'longest juvenile lifer' on 68 years... by mekkkkkk on Saturday May 15, 2021 @03:26PM (#27168114)
IIRC, empathy isnt fully developed until the early twenties. Even if you are capable of having sophisticated trains of thoughts you might not realize the scope of consequences from your actions.

Life without parole seems like it should be reserved for those who are beyond saving. Not sure a 15 year old boy would classify as such. It all depends on your view of retribution vs rehabilitation though.

Re:Joe Ligon: America's 'longest juvenile lifer' on 68 years... by thrwhizzle on Saturday May 15, 2021 @01:22PM (#27167081)
He went on a robbing and stabbing spree that ended up with six critical injuries and two deaths.

Maybe you don’t think he deserves his punishment. I certainly do. The type of person who would go on a stabbing spree for wine money is not the kind of person who has any place in society I want to live.

Re:Joe Ligon: America's 'longest juvenile lifer' on 68 years... by daenz on Saturday May 15, 2021 @04:11PM (#27168562)
Furthermore, if this is the type of thing that someone has to "learn" not to do at 15, what other horrible things do they still need to learn not to do? It is not worth having these people live around others while they learn these lessons at the cost of innocents around them.
Re:Joe Ligon: America's 'longest juvenile lifer' on 68 years... by systemvoltage on Saturday May 15, 2021 @01:15PM (#27167015)
So, "Deserves" still applies here, just less.
Re:Joe Ligon: America's 'longest juvenile lifer' on 68 years... by taneq on Saturday May 15, 2021 @01:34PM (#27167204)
Aww he's just a kid... no need to get upset about him stabbing a bunch of people to death now is there?
Re:Joe Ligon: America's 'longest juvenile lifer' on 68 years... by alogray on Saturday May 15, 2021 @01:56PM (#27167377)
That is not what the person you replied to what the person you replied to said and you know that.

Intentionally misconstruing what others say is something best left for Reddit.