Re:Study in zebrafish examines how tumors alter whole-body m...
by agumonkey on Friday May 14, 2021 @05:26PM
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talking about glucose and tumors, anybody knows some good reads about benefits of ketogenic or similarly low sugar diets in regards to cancer ?
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Re:Study in zebrafish examines how tumors alter whole-body m...
by Fezzik on Friday May 14, 2021 @08:42PM
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Not related to cancer, but the general consensus in the medical community seems to be that keto is NOT a healthy diet. Though it can help with weight loss it contributes to poor heart health and just generally mucks up your cardiovascular system (that’s my medical term, not a doctor’s). I gained a few pounds during Covid and my GPs first, unprompted, advice was to avoid keto at all costs. Additional anecdote: my uncle recently lost a good amount of weight on a keto diet (5’8”, was 220 now about 168) and he promptly had a heart-attack. Doctors said he had “diabetic arteries” and that the keto diet was at least a contributing factor.
Re:Study in zebrafish examines how tumors alter whole-body m...
by adrianN on Saturday May 15, 2021 @12:45AM
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I think getting any clear results in nutrition is essentially impossible because you can't conduct the studies necessary to get rid of all the confounding factors. Consequently it's probably a bad idea to follow an extreme diet. Of course that doesn't mean that keto (or other dietary interventions) can't be beneficial for certain illnesses like cancer. I'd be interested to hear about studies.
Re:Study in zebrafish examines how tumors alter whole-body m...
by otabdeveloper4 on Saturday May 15, 2021 @01:21AM
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Our modern standard diet is very extreme by default.
I'd guess practically any other diet would be better.
Re:Study in zebrafish examines how tumors alter whole-body m...
by adrianN on Saturday May 15, 2021 @01:34AM
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I guess it depends on your culture what the "standard" diet is. I don't think my diet is particularly extreme.
Re:Study in zebrafish examines how tumors alter whole-body m...
by otabdeveloper4 on Saturday May 15, 2021 @07:06AM
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The one that has white flour/rice and sugar as the main staples. You know what I mean; it's cross-cultural now, like tobacco smoking.
Re:Study in zebrafish examines how tumors alter whole-body m...
by adrianN on Saturday May 15, 2021 @11:12AM
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The diets in the "Blue Zones" feature those as staples as well. I somehow don't think that they're terribly unhealthy. Grains have been staples for millennia by now.
Re:Study in zebrafish examines how tumors alter whole-body m...
by otabdeveloper4 on Sunday May 16, 2021 @10:49AM
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The bread we eat now and the bread we ate 150 years ago are very different breads.
The modern stuff is refined flour and sugar.
Re:Study in zebrafish examines how tumors alter whole-body m...
by agumonkey on Saturday May 15, 2021 @05:36AM
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Thanks, it's funny how you can hear just about everything about diets. I just saw a video about a doctors review of someone doing one meal a day / keto saying their internals were in better shape than most young adults.
It's true that tapping in alternative energy path is risky, that's why I ask for others informations before jumping into a sharkpool.
Re:Study in zebrafish examines how tumors alter whole-body m...
by jdale27 on Friday May 14, 2021 @10:06PM
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Look into Thomas Seyfried's work, e.g. https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fnut.2020.00021... and his book "Cancer as a Metabolic Disease".
Re:Study in zebrafish examines how tumors alter whole-body m...
by agumonkey on Saturday May 15, 2021 @05:39AM
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He's very visible on youtube, which is as good as bad, but I like his thinking approach.
Re:Study in zebrafish examines how tumors alter whole-body m...
by otabdeveloper4 on Saturday May 15, 2021 @01:24AM
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Cool, thanks.
What about benign tumors, did anybody research those?
Re:Study in zebrafish examines how tumors alter whole-body m...
by bawolff on Friday May 14, 2021 @05:36PM
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If you pick your reading based on the answer you want to hear, you're only going to ever get confirmation bias.
Re:Study in zebrafish examines how tumors alter whole-body m...
by agumonkey on Friday May 14, 2021 @05:46PM
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I'm not thank you
Re:Study in zebrafish examines how tumors alter whole-body m...
by chadcmulligan on Friday May 14, 2021 @08:08PM
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Intermittent fasting seems to have a net positive effect, and the Mediterranean diet seems anti cancer - you live longer. A search will turn up multiple scholarly references.
Re:Study in zebrafish examines how tumors alter whole-body m...
by hellbannedguy on Friday May 14, 2021 @09:20PM
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I sometimes feel like only eating when very hungry might be the only reason I'm still around. I was no rock star, but had many of the same habits.
I have a gut feeling that eating less food might be better than any other healthy living tips.
(To those fasting. I have know two people, one a Chiropractor, who went on strict fasts. Both ended up in the hospital over their appendix bursting. I will always remember what my grandfather told me. Everything in moderation.)
Re:Study in zebrafish examines how tumors alter whole-body m...
by CryptoPunk on Saturday May 15, 2021 @07:02AM
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Caloric restriction is one of the most reliable ways to increase the possibility of extending life. Fasting is also known to be beneficial. IIRC, you don't need very long fasts to get the full benefits.