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Re:FBI Has Gained Access to Sci-Hub Founder's Apple Account,... by tw04 on Friday May 14, 2021 @04:22PM (#27159269)
I'm not sure I follow your point, nothing you've stated contradicts the fact that his own lawyers admitted to him supplying Russians with polling data. You can't refute the facts so refute the site to try to distract the discussion? It is LITERALLY in the redacted court documents:

https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/5677512/Manafort-...

If you have an issue with that site you can go to literally dozens of others, how about the BBC?

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-46804127

Re:FBI Has Gained Access to Sci-Hub Founder's Apple Account,... by the_optimist on Friday May 14, 2021 @04:51PM (#27159541)
My point is exactly this: this has been puffed to sound nefarious. It is a zero.

Fuzzy thinking around it was and is being used to excuse extraordinary abuse of the law and legal system.

To be illegal, information sharing has to violate some law. This does not. It is simply not illegal to share information with Russia citizens, the Russian government, or anyone affiliated with Russia.

Not even "secret" information, unless that information is governed under very specific laws. All this media puffery is absolute manipulation, and your distributing it shows that you either don't understand the law or don't wish to.

Re:FBI Has Gained Access to Sci-Hub Founder's Apple Account,... by tw04 on Friday May 14, 2021 @05:09PM (#27159734)
>To be illegal, information sharing has to violate some law. This does not. It is simply not illegal to share information with Russia citizens, the Russian government, or anyone affiliated with Russia.

I can't tell if you're intentionally stating falsehoods with the hope nobody will fact check you, or if you're just completely ignorant of the law. He was accused and convicted of acting as an unregistered foreign agent. Is it absolutely, unquestionably illegal to be a political operative for a foreign government and not register. For good reason. He broke the law, he went to prison. It was entirely illegal.

And NONE of that has anything to do with the original question or answer. Which is: what proof is there that he gave polling data to the Russians. Which I provided, and you still haven't refuted.

Re:FBI Has Gained Access to Sci-Hub Founder's Apple Account,... by the_optimist on Friday May 14, 2021 @05:18PM (#27159815)
This is a non-argument. I do not dispute that he did or not.

I assert strongly that no one on earth should care in the slightest.

Re:FBI Has Gained Access to Sci-Hub Founder's Apple Account,... by the_optimist on Friday May 14, 2021 @08:42PM (#27161179)
There were no charges related to information, sharing, or Russians.

Sharing non-classified information is completely legal. Working for a foreign business is legal. Getting paid is legal. Almost everything is legal.

Acting as an foreign agent without disclosure is illegal, in limited scope. The FARA violation related to Ukraine.

Re:FBI Has Gained Access to Sci-Hub Founder's Apple Account,... by tored on Friday May 14, 2021 @04:34PM (#27159393)
What do you think the punishment should be for giving mostly outdated, partially public and top line polling data (Trump 50% vs Clinton 48%) to Russians (as in citizens)?
Re:FBI Has Gained Access to Sci-Hub Founder's Apple Account,... by tw04 on Friday May 14, 2021 @05:15PM (#27159798)
I would need you to go back and edit your posts insinuating there was no proof before I have any interest in continuing the conversation. I get the impression you're more interested in trolling than having a conversation based in facts.
Re:FBI Has Gained Access to Sci-Hub Founder's Apple Account,... by tored on Friday May 14, 2021 @05:26PM (#27159880)
Please point me to when I said there was no proof for Manafort giving Kilimnik polling data. (I didn't, what I was skeptic about was that Manafort gave Russian Intelligence sensitive campaign data and that there was connection from the Trump campaign to Russian Intelligence).

Now, please answer my question.