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Re:Lima: Linux-on-Mac by Toutouxc on Friday May 14, 2021 @02:24PM (#27157874)
Honest question, what's wrong with Finder? I use ForkLift for the heavy lifting (lol), but it works just fine for "navigate to file, open/move/delete file, sort by size/date, tag files, find files".
Re:Lima: Linux-on-Mac by smoldesu on Friday May 14, 2021 @02:57PM (#27158329)
Finder still can't handle SFTP connections. In 2021. I feel like I'm going insane, or I've missed some sort of critical update, but no, it's just sitting there.
Re:Lima: Linux-on-Mac by olyjohn on Friday May 14, 2021 @03:20PM (#27158596)
It hardly handles SMB/CIFS connections correctly, and it's been fucked up for years.
Re:Lima: Linux-on-Mac by jbverschoor on Friday May 14, 2021 @03:31PM (#27158742)
Well.. you’ll have to install an fs driver for that. Exactly like in Linux. Or just use mountainduck
Re:Lima: Linux-on-Mac by regularfry on Friday May 14, 2021 @05:08PM (#27159722)
What makes you think that you need to install a driver on Linux to make SFTP mounts work in a file manager?
Re:Lima: Linux-on-Mac by smoldesu on Friday May 14, 2021 @05:13PM (#27159776)
Every file manager I've used on Linux has support for SFTP out of the box. Not quite sure what you're talking about here.
Re:Lima: Linux-on-Mac by swiley on Friday May 14, 2021 @04:53PM (#27159563)
This.

It's incredibly useful basic functionality that both Finder and explorer inexplicably lack. This alone makes Linux desktops far more friendly even for novice users who want to do something beyond sharing gifs on web forums.

Re:Lima: Linux-on-Mac by dmitriid on Friday May 14, 2021 @06:51PM (#27160498)
SFTP.

Novice users.

Why would a novice user want SFTP built-in to their file manager?

Re:Lima: Linux-on-Mac by smoldesu on Saturday May 15, 2021 @05:58PM (#27169402)
SFTP is a protocol, and "novice users" are actually using it every day without realizing it.
Re:Lima: Linux-on-Mac by dmitriid on Sunday May 16, 2021 @12:12AM (#27171169)
Right... When and where they would use it without realizing it?
Re:Lima: Linux-on-Mac by swiley on Friday May 14, 2021 @10:34PM (#27161788)
To move files between machines they own?
Re:Lima: Linux-on-Mac by LordDragonfang on Saturday May 15, 2021 @12:48AM (#27162466)
Novice users use flash drives or emails, they don't set up ssh servers. In fact, I've never seen a non-power user set up an ssh server except maybe if you count a consumer NAS (which usually show up as networked drives).

To that point, I'd be willing to bet money that any user that even has access to an ssh server they'd want to use either has the technical know how to set up those tools themselves, or has an IT person who can do so for them.

Re:Lima: Linux-on-Mac by swiley on Saturday May 15, 2021 @12:05PM (#27166404)
On the OSes that have SFTP capable shells ssh is enabled by default.

Other OSes lacking this is why everyone keeps their data in silos.

Re:Lima: Linux-on-Mac by dmitriid on Saturday May 15, 2021 @09:05PM (#27170341)
This still doesn't answer the question of why a novice would want SFTP.
Re:Lima: Linux-on-Mac by hyakosm on Friday May 14, 2021 @02:30PM (#27157968)

   - It's slow
   - Middle-click don't open the folder in a new tab
   - It doesn't natively handle SFTP mounting
   - The visual fixed arrangement of icons can be weird
Re:Lima: Linux-on-Mac by viraptor on Friday May 14, 2021 @07:20PM (#27160697)
Not mentioned yet:

- no explicit refresh - if you're using network shares you often won't get an update notification, but have to go out and in again

- insistence on abstractions - I don't want to click through all the folders, sometimes I have a path ready to paste

Re:Lima: Linux-on-Mac by nikau on Friday May 14, 2021 @11:47PM (#27162161)
Saving a file as /tmp/blah saves it as :tmp:blah the current directory, then you curse and have to press cmd shift g to pick a folder, paste the filename with path, remove the file name bit, then finally get to save your file.