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Re:DarkSide ransomware gang quits after servers, Bitcoin sta... by vkou on Friday May 14, 2021 @01:55PM (#27157457)
Terrorism is a non-state use of violence for political aims.

Ransomware is non-state, not violent, and is done for economic, not political aims.

Re:DarkSide ransomware gang quits after servers, Bitcoin sta... by waihtis on Friday May 14, 2021 @02:14PM (#27157736)
> non-state > economic, not political

There’s a well known phenonenom of a certain large nation harbouring cybercrime gangs and keeping them on the government leash. Their economic activity benefits the governments political agenda. Ergo all conditions are true.

Re:DarkSide ransomware gang quits after servers, Bitcoin sta... by vkou on Friday May 14, 2021 @02:29PM (#27157957)
There's also a well-known phenomena of large nations harboring multi-national corporations that break the law in other nations they operate in.

That doesn't mean that the large, developed nations in question are engaging in organized crime.

Taking advantage of regulatory arbitrage does not mean that their government is in collusion with them.

If it did, then we could pile a lot of crimes at the feet of Western governments. Some mining firm violently puts down a strike in Central America? Clearly, we can conclude that Canada/the US is engaging in terrorism! [1]

[1] https://digitalcommons.osgoode.yorku.ca/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?... [2]

[2] 28 Canadian companies, 44 deaths, 30 of which were targeted extra-judicial killings. Are we going to lay those at the feet of Parliament, too? [3]

[3] Or do we have one set of standards for Russia, and another for our own behaviour?

Re:DarkSide ransomware gang quits after servers, Bitcoin sta... by waihtis on Friday May 14, 2021 @03:10PM (#27158478)
There is no sense to your comparison when you’re putting a criminal enterprise (which exists to do harm and harm only) and legitimate business into the same bucket.
Re:DarkSide ransomware gang quits after servers, Bitcoin sta... by vkou on Friday May 14, 2021 @03:19PM (#27158579)
A 'legitimate business' that occasionally dabbles in murder is also a criminal enterprise.
Re:DarkSide ransomware gang quits after servers, Bitcoin sta... by waihtis on Friday May 14, 2021 @03:23PM (#27158638)
Agree to a certain extent - executives in such companies need to pay the price on their actions, whether involed directly or via a proxy
Re:DarkSide ransomware gang quits after servers, Bitcoin sta... by fencepost on Friday May 14, 2021 @03:34PM (#27158781)
Ransomware is non-state

Are there no ransomware operations linked to North Korea? I was under the impression that there was some level of activity there to maintain supplies of globally-usable currency.

Re:DarkSide ransomware gang quits after servers, Bitcoin sta... by Forbo on Friday May 14, 2021 @06:31PM (#27160367)
Last I heard, they were more oriented toward cryptocurrency trojans and botnet mining operations, but I could be mistaken.
Re:DarkSide ransomware gang quits after servers, Bitcoin sta... by vkou on Friday May 14, 2021 @07:22PM (#27160705)
North Korea is... A special case, and it is still quite unlike any other country in the world.
Re:DarkSide ransomware gang quits after servers, Bitcoin sta... by zepto on Saturday May 15, 2021 @11:45AM (#27166236)
That’s true of the US, Russia, and China too.
Re:DarkSide ransomware gang quits after servers, Bitcoin sta... by vkou on Sunday May 16, 2021 @03:55AM (#27171997)
Neither of those countries have the government responsible for all economic activity that happens through the internet.

The Great Firewall is likewise, not remotely similar to the restrictions placed on internet access in North Korea.

Re:DarkSide ransomware gang quits after servers, Bitcoin sta... by zepto on Sunday May 16, 2021 @12:58PM (#27175037)
True, if that’s the point you intended to make.