I agree. My work has both an unofficial slack and official email. Email is for the serious, no nonsense posts. Slack can have a mix, but with the understanding that it is more informal. We do not pay for slack, so this informality is enforced by the message/content being unavailable as we go on.

The last paragraph can be done with a good IM, such as Telegram, as it has not crippled itself to virtue signal E2E, and has functional cloud sync and search. I even forward my emails to it as it’s easier to organize them there.

> it has not crippled itself to virtue signal E2E

It's worth considering that there's a place in the world for both a security-first IM system and a features-first IM system. While Telegram does offer optional encryption, I'm not sure I'd trust it if I wanted to hide the content of my communication from a sophisticated adversary.

If you're trying to hide your communications from state-level actors, there are better options than a consumer messaging platform

There might be if everyone in the conversation is sophisticated enough to use them. If you're trying to set up communication with a large number of people who have consumer-level technical knowledge in a country that had a coup two days ago and is now suffering a crackdown at the hands of the new military dictatorship, Signal might be just the ticket.

At this point, I use telegram for essentially everything, not just email either. I found this HN thread through the Hacker News telegram feed[0]. I don't check reddit, or have other RSS feeds anymore, I just subscribe to the equivalent telegram channels. I even use the "to me" telegram channel for searchable notes

[0] https://t.me/hacker_news_feed

Creating these channels is pretty easy, BTW. Just glue rsstail and a Telegram library such as Telethon together. I have a channel where HN posts with a certain score threshold are posted, for example.

How do you forward email to Telegram?

You can use a system like https://hanami.run. It support forward to Telegram.

FULL DISCLOSURE: I'm the founder

Atleast for gmail , google has their own telegram bot (has the blue tick beside it) , just type “gmail bot” in your telegram search bar , it will have a bot with a blue tick beside it

I also use this, but it's not gotten any updates since it was introduced. I would like to rewrite a bot from scratch, but the Gmail bot's initial offering is still good enough that I don't have the motivation.

The worst problem it has is the lack of multi-account support. The reply functionality is also a bit buggy. I generally only use it as a read-only client.

Organisation, I tend to disagree conversation/threading is fundamentally broken with email. I really liked nntp for that stuff but alas...

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