Babel is used by millions, so why are we running out of money?

Re:Babel is used by millions, so why are we running out of m... by 0x000000E2 on Tuesday May 11, 2021 @04:40AM (#27115715)

Eh, my take, Typescript won. Does the same thing as Babel but supports static types and inference in regular JS.

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Re:Babel is used by millions, so why are we running out of m... by chadlavi on Tuesday May 11, 2021 @09:55AM (#27118161)

The only thing Babel seems to have a moat around is being react's preferred jsx transpiler

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Re:Babel is used by millions, so why are we running out of m... by swyx on Tuesday May 11, 2021 @10:30AM (#27118516)

on the contrary - tsc is so slow that most people use babel to strip out types in production.

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Re:Babel is used by millions, so why are we running out of m... by simlevesque on Tuesday May 11, 2021 @11:21AM (#27119171)

What does "strip out types in production" means ? I've never heard of that.

For what I do, Babel is the slow part. switching babel to esbuild (still with tsc) divided my build times by 10.

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Re:Babel is used by millions, so why are we running out of m... by manigandham on Tuesday May 11, 2021 @09:23PM (#27125636)

The types aren't real anyway, what is there to strip out? Do you mean don't type check for production builds?

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Re:Babel is used by millions, so why are we running out of m... by 0x000000E2 on Tuesday May 11, 2021 @10:57AM (#27118833)

Everything is transpired to JS before it hits prod.

But yeah it's slow

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Re:Babel is used by millions, so why are we running out of m... by andrew_ on Tuesday May 11, 2021 @11:16AM (#27119104)

bingo. tsc for dev. sucrase for prod.

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Re:Babel is used by millions, so why are we running out of m... by WesolyKubeczek on Tuesday May 11, 2021 @04:59AM (#27115844)

Can it produce JavaScript runnable on Safari from iOS 9.3.6?

Those old iPads and iPhones just won't die... As well as a number of Macbooks that will never go past OS X 10.11.

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Re:Babel is used by millions, so why are we running out of m... by 0x000000E2 on Tuesday May 11, 2021 @05:07AM (#27115888)

Yes, it goes back to ES3.

Babel does have a neat automatic polyfill system typescript doesn't. But both can target real old JS versions. Most JS packages you'll find on NPM are still ES5.

Transpilers are quickly making JS a compiled language where the bytecode format is ES5 :)

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Re:Babel is used by millions, so why are we running out of m... by filleduchaos on Tuesday May 11, 2021 @05:11AM (#27115912)

tsc produces ES3, yes.

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