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Re:Bob Dylan lays down what killed rock n roll (2016) by Balgair on Saturday May 08, 2021 @03:03PM (#27089826)
> And if you look at what is happening on Bandcamp or Soundcloud or YouTube or wherever else young people are trying new things you see a tremendous heterogeneity of inspiration and not a lot of concern for where the sound fits in.

One way I have heard to mentally categorize things: What is the stereotypical musical instrument of that generation/genre?

For jazz and the silent generation it was the saxophone, maybe others though.

For rock-n-roll it's the electric guitar, no question.

The 80's was the electric keyboard and synths, kinda.

Today? The laptop.

Re:Bob Dylan lays down what killed rock n roll (2016) by rtisdale on Monday May 10, 2021 @10:20AM (#27106218)
>Today? The laptop

The laptop is really just a tool to host different virtual instruments.

The "instrument" most easily associated with the past 15-20 years of electronic/pop music making have been Wave Table synthesizers like NI Massive and Serum.

Remember Skrillex? Those screeching sounds and basses are using Wavetable synthesis (from NI Massive in particular).

A big part of the reason it's harder to associate a particular instrument with newer electronic genres is because it's FAR easier (and more common) now to program your own patches (essentially a preset instrument) for your songs.

The DX-80 mentioned in the next section was VERY difficult to create patches for (even for it's time) so when you hear it in a song, it's almost always the included stock patches.

>The 80's was the electric keyboard and synths, kinda.

You'd associate a few types of instruments (and synthesis types) with the 80s but the reigning one was FM Synthesis, in particular the Yamaha DX-80.

Give a listen to some stick DX-80 patches and you'll immediately go "Yep, that's the 80's"

Re:Bob Dylan lays down what killed rock n roll (2016) by Kye on Saturday May 08, 2021 @09:31PM (#27092365)
The laptop is probably on the way out for a lot of electronic music. I just got a Launchpad X to see what all the hype was about, and it's a lot of fun. The fancier Pro MK3 model can hook right up to a synthesizer. You can already get a fully independent music-making tool in the higher-end Maschine+. I wouldn't be surprised if the inevitable Ableton Push 3 was standalone.
Re:Bob Dylan lays down what killed rock n roll (2016) by mncharity on Sunday May 09, 2021 @08:04AM (#27095304)
> The laptop is probably on the way out for a lot of electronic music.

The VR "EXA: The Infinite Instrument"[1] seemed one intriguing window on the future. Development looks stalled.

[1] https://store.steampowered.com/app/606920/EXA_The_Infinite_I...

Re:Bob Dylan lays down what killed rock n roll (2016) by Kye on Sunday May 09, 2021 @08:32AM (#27095450)
There was a TV show a long time ago that was basically 3D demo reels. This reminded me of that. I can't remember the name. It might have been part of another show.

edit: It was Eye Drops on TechTV https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tlM2LFPjS5k

Re:Bob Dylan lays down what killed rock n roll (2016) by goodbye_ruth on Tuesday May 11, 2021 @09:12PM (#27125565)
The OP-1 just hit 10 years – many have made albums on that little music box.
Re:Bob Dylan lays down what killed rock n roll (2016) by tnolet on Sunday May 09, 2021 @05:49AM (#27094635)
The DAW ushered in by Protools and its plugins.
Re:Bob Dylan lays down what killed rock n roll (2016) by biztos on Sunday May 09, 2021 @12:59AM (#27093345)
The laptop? Or the DAW?
Re:Bob Dylan lays down what killed rock n roll (2016) by Balgair on Sunday May 09, 2021 @01:21PM (#27097765)
Good point. But I feel that a DAW is a bit higher up the professionalization chain for most of the kids out there.

However, for the keyboard, mic, headphone, software, etc you're in the ~$500+ range. But, a Silvertone Stratotone in 1960 was ~$55. That's ~$500 today when adjusting for inflation, so right in the ballpark.