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Re:Over 96% of Apple Users Have Blocked Facebook from Tracki... by ipaddr on Saturday May 08, 2021 @08:56AM (#27086734)
4% seems extremely low probably a miscount.

If the majority of these users are looking for privacy they probably wouldn't trust facebook with their data in the first place.

The reason seems to be the stats are not being properly counted by this company. Apple will need to confirm the numbers.

Re:Over 96% of Apple Users Have Blocked Facebook from Tracki... by orbital-decay on Saturday May 08, 2021 @09:32AM (#27086969)
>If the majority of these users are looking for privacy they probably wouldn't trust facebook with their data in the first place.

This assumes they know and care that they're being tracked. Once faced with a clear choice without any dark patterns, it's fairly obvious that most users will select no tracking, unless the (supposed or real) benefits of being tracked are also explained to them. With the default Facebook behavior, they simply aren't being reminded of it. Out of sight, out of mind.

It's been known forever that opt-in data collection is almost useless, because the overwhelming majority of users won't allow it if they have the choice, regardless of the expertise. In fact, it's the reason for the current state of things - the telemetry and tracking of all sorts are being forced by default in most of the software and services with no option to disable it.

Re:Over 96% of Apple Users Have Blocked Facebook from Tracki... by ashtonbaker on Saturday May 08, 2021 @09:00AM (#27086762)
I think people accept tracking because they feel like they don’t have a choice. But when the choice is as easy as a button, they happily opt out.
Re:Over 96% of Apple Users Have Blocked Facebook from Tracki... by dorchadas on Saturday May 08, 2021 @09:38AM (#27087010)
I don't even believe it's because they feel they don't have a choice -- I think it's more they don't realize the data Facebook et al collect (or that it's even collecting data). So when Apple asks if they want to be tracked, they say no because they don't want to be tracked but didn't realize it before.

A lot of people don't realize they track you across websites etc, even if it might seem obvious to us.

Re:Over 96% of Apple Users Have Blocked Facebook from Tracki... by ashtonbaker on Saturday May 08, 2021 @12:12PM (#27088410)
Agreed, it’s a default choice with vague implications to the average person.
Re:Over 96% of Apple Users Have Blocked Facebook from Tracki... by datavirtue on Saturday May 08, 2021 @09:27AM (#27086941)
Exactly. This is the same reason Facebook won't let users moderate content.
Re:Over 96% of Apple Users Have Blocked Facebook from Tracki... by hugi on Saturday May 08, 2021 @09:04AM (#27086777)
The number sounds about right to me. Why would I click a button that says "allow Mark Zuckerberg to gather my private data"? How is that not just a pure negative for me?

I use the Facebook website from time to time, which I accept is kind of duplicitous, knowing the data they gather from those sessions will be abused. But my browser is configured to disable everything Facebook on sites other than Facebook (comments, "social plugins" etc) so at least it's confined and done explicitly by me, with my knowledge.

Re:Over 96% of Apple Users Have Blocked Facebook from Tracki... by ponyous on Saturday May 08, 2021 @09:09AM (#27086812)
> "allow Mark Zuckerberg to gather my private data"

Because that's exactly what it says...

Consider "Would you like to improve FB experience by sharing how you use the app?"

You are a tech dude and read it the same, but it's not the same.

Re:Over 96% of Apple Users Have Blocked Facebook from Tracki... by twobitshifter on Saturday May 08, 2021 @09:35AM (#27086988)
Apple clearly writes the acceptance policy but Facebook has a begging screen that pops up in front. Apple asks you if you want to allow Facebook to track you across other websites and apps. This is not telemetry, but ad-profiling. Facebook can still log everything you do within Facebook, it’s the stuff outside of Facebook that they’re been blocked from seeing.
Re:Over 96% of Apple Users Have Blocked Facebook from Tracki... by mnd999 on Saturday May 08, 2021 @09:38AM (#27087014)
For me the setting to even allow them to ask for tracking was off by default. I would have had to have found some buried setting and changed it to even get the pop up. I would have had to be pretty keen on being tracked to do that.
Re:Over 96% of Apple Users Have Blocked Facebook from Tracki... by germinalphrase on Saturday May 08, 2021 @08:59AM (#27086753)
Most people probably assume facebook’s tracking stops at “of course they track the information/photos I choose to post”.