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Re:Interactive IPA Chart by shazar on Thursday May 06, 2021 @05:02PM (#27069014)
Aren't week/weak and piece/peace pronounced exactly the same?
Re:Interactive IPA Chart by ericbarrett on Friday May 07, 2021 @01:39AM (#27072582)
I'd pronounce those the same (western US accent), but it can vary. Check out the caught/cot merger, for example: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cot%E2%80%93caught_merger
Re:Interactive IPA Chart by irrational on Thursday May 06, 2021 @06:05PM (#27069588)
They are for me. Exactly the same pronunciation and emphasis. Maybe there are some dialects of English where they are not pronounced the same.
Re:Interactive IPA Chart by 3pt14159 on Thursday May 06, 2021 @05:07PM (#27069054)
They're really quite close, both pairs of them. But the emphasis isn't quite the same as most people speak it.
Re:Interactive IPA Chart by NovemberWhiskey on Thursday May 06, 2021 @05:53PM (#27069486)
As a speaker of fairly standard British English, I would say they are homophones; I tried but couldn't find any natural way in which I could pronounce them differently.
Re:Interactive IPA Chart by shazar on Thursday May 06, 2021 @05:32PM (#27069297)
dictionary.com shows both with the same IPA: \wik\ and \pis\.
Re:Interactive IPA Chart by ff7c11 on Thursday May 06, 2021 @05:25PM (#27069238)
I think they're identical.
Re:Interactive IPA Chart by danielheath on Thursday May 06, 2021 @05:33PM (#27069303)
I’m sure, in many accents, that they are. Definitely not the same in Australian Strine.
Re:Interactive IPA Chart by hunter2_ on Thursday May 06, 2021 @06:44PM (#27069856)
As an American, I knew about Straya but this is the first I've heard of Strine. Or should I say Murican :)
Re:Interactive IPA Chart by no_carrier on Thursday May 06, 2021 @09:27PM (#27070902)
They're identical in Australian English.
Re:Interactive IPA Chart by danielheath on Friday May 07, 2021 @01:05AM (#27072380)
Which one?
Re:Interactive IPA Chart by leephillips on Thursday May 06, 2021 @05:36PM (#27069339)
They are identical. I think he was making a distinction between {week, weak} on one hand and {wick} on the other (but I was also initially confused by the way he put it). This is a big hurdle for native Spanish speakers as well, because i in Spanish is always pronounced as "ee". There seem to be a lot of embarrassing word pairs around these vowels; sheet, beach, etc.
Re:Interactive IPA Chart by dvirsky on Thursday May 06, 2021 @06:26PM (#27069765)
Yeah what I meant is that it just increases the possibilities of awkwardness. Piss of cake, piss process, etc.
Re:Interactive IPA Chart by chrisweekly on Thursday May 06, 2021 @09:24PM (#27070885)
Yes, they're homophones.