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Re:Doctors investigate mystery brain disease in Canada by rndude on Wednesday May 05, 2021 @05:16AM (#27047801)
Prions are incredible hard to destroy.

To quote from Wikipedia:

`Prion aggregates are stable, and this structural stability means that prions are resistant to denaturation by chemical and physical agents: they cannot be destroyed by ordinary disinfection or cooking.`

Re:Doctors investigate mystery brain disease in Canada by Red_Leaves_Flyy on Wednesday May 05, 2021 @06:53AM (#27048355)
Iirc hospitals that treat patients with prion diseases incinerate all materials that contact the patients. I don't know how they sanitize the rooms but it can't be cheap or eco friendly.
Re:Doctors investigate mystery brain disease in Canada by XorNot on Wednesday May 05, 2021 @10:57AM (#27050669)
Chemical agents which cause protein-crosslinking would be the preferred method - you can broadly make every side-group reactive and cause them all to stitch together with anything else organic, which tends to inactivate them (makes them a big blob which can't do much).

But it's nasty stuff to work with, since it also happily does tons of damage to the proteins making up the humans applying it.

Re:Doctors investigate mystery brain disease in Canada by Red_Leaves_Flyy on Wednesday May 05, 2021 @11:28AM (#27051156)
Do you have an example of such a chemical being used to effectively remediate prion contaminated environments?
Re:Doctors investigate mystery brain disease in Canada by XorNot on Wednesday May 05, 2021 @11:54AM (#27051533)
Apparently not: I was thinking glutaraldehyde which is used for cleaning in hospitals but reading up the advice for prions is explicitly opposed to cross-linking agents.

Which makes sense I guess but it's also scary.

Re:Doctors investigate mystery brain disease in Canada by Red_Leaves_Flyy on Wednesday May 05, 2021 @01:12PM (#27052661)
You raised my hopes and dashed them exquisitely.

Until we have better, cheaper, and less error prone methods of remediating prion diseases they're the #1 fear on my biological apocalypse list.

Re:Doctors investigate mystery brain disease in Canada by turing_complete on Wednesday May 05, 2021 @07:38AM (#27048635)
Destroying prions is eco friendly.
Re:Doctors investigate mystery brain disease in Canada by Red_Leaves_Flyy on Wednesday May 05, 2021 @10:51AM (#27050573)
Humans need a non toxic environment. Plants, and life in general, will find a way. With, and without, us.
Re:Doctors investigate mystery brain disease in Canada by Anon4Now on Wednesday May 05, 2021 @07:46AM (#27048702)
Sterrad sterilization machines, which use a hydrogen peroxide gas plasma, have been shown to be very effective against CJD (mad cow) and other prion diseases. However they are very expensive, and almost 20 years after their launch there are only 20k systems installed world wide.
Re:Doctors investigate mystery brain disease in Canada by ashildr on Wednesday May 05, 2021 @08:49AM (#27049203)
A plasma of H2O2 sounds like the definition of a reactive environment…
Re:Doctors investigate mystery brain disease in Canada by giantg2 on Wednesday May 05, 2021 @07:55AM (#27048775)
That's not entirely true. They know that bleach can be used against CWD for surface decontamination. I would call a 50/50 bleach water solution quite common for disinfectant.

https://www.nih.gov/news-events/news-releases/household-blea...

Re:Doctors investigate mystery brain disease in Canada by homero on Wednesday May 05, 2021 @07:16AM (#27048503)
Are prions contagious through contact or only eating?
Re:Doctors investigate mystery brain disease in Canada by iagovar on Wednesday May 05, 2021 @07:14AM (#27048487)
That's not good.
Re:Doctors investigate mystery brain disease in Canada by StavrosK on Wednesday May 05, 2021 @05:18AM (#27047814)
Oooof...