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Re:Bob Cassette Rewinder: Hacking Detergent DRM by ectopod on Sunday May 02, 2021 @07:44AM (#27014382)
Is this a London thing?

I've rented in the UK for decades and I've never had a dishwasher or space for one. Friends haven't bothered with dishwashers until they had kids, and then they needed to create a space and add some plumbing.

Dishwashers in the UK seem like the opposite of ubiquitous. Maybe I live in a strange bubble.

Re:Bob Cassette Rewinder: Hacking Detergent DRM by OJFord on Sunday May 02, 2021 @07:49AM (#27014417)
These counter-top ones? Not that I'm aware of. I have a normal (though half-width, but that just makes sense for a 1 bed place really) one in London.

Maybe older builds that haven't been updated wouldn't have any space for one as you say, without re-jigging cupboards, so maybe people do. But then you're losing work surface for it..

Re:Bob Cassette Rewinder: Hacking Detergent DRM by dopidopHN on Sunday May 02, 2021 @10:15AM (#27015504)
My view on the utility of those devices :

I lived in Paris for a while. Large appartement have dishwasher, but in single units, it’s uncommon.

I remember looking for solution like that for a renter in a small place without proper plumbing to accommodate a dishwasher.

I also see a market for the so called tiny house folks or full time RVer.

I don’t find that particular product appealing too much, but I would like to see more like that. And I know folks around me that would buy one if it’s was more open and fixable.

Re:Bob Cassette Rewinder: Hacking Detergent DRM by gambiting on Sunday May 02, 2021 @08:00AM (#27014492)
I've rented.....8 houses so far, all in North East(Newcastle) and every single one of them had a dishwasher. I suppose maybe part of it is that I simply wouldn't rent a place without a dishwasher ;-)
Re:Bob Cassette Rewinder: Hacking Detergent DRM by detaro on Sunday May 02, 2021 @08:21AM (#27014638)
presumably "houses" is the key word here?
Re:Bob Cassette Rewinder: Hacking Detergent DRM by gambiting on Sunday May 02, 2021 @08:42AM (#27014788)
Fair, but in my experience with the UK something like a 2 bed house is really just an apartment cosplaying as a house.
Re:Bob Cassette Rewinder: Hacking Detergent DRM by _carbyau_ on Monday May 03, 2021 @06:13PM (#27031499)
Well in a lot of places, the fact it is a self standing property means the owner can do whatever they want with it without having to consult a "building committee".

Like rearranging plumbing/electrical however you want.

Whether landlords use this advantage for tenants quality of life is a whole other story.

Re:Bob Cassette Rewinder: Hacking Detergent DRM by sirsinsalot on Sunday May 02, 2021 @08:40AM (#27014772)
I've rented flats outside london for years, always come with a dishwasher. I'm on a high salary though, so it may skew my world view of what is "standard"
Re:Bob Cassette Rewinder: Hacking Detergent DRM by zimpenfish on Tuesday May 04, 2021 @09:17AM (#27037229)
Anecdata: I've rented 2 flats in London over the last 30 years (and been a frequent visitor to 4 more); none had a dishwasher. Rented one house in Newcastle; also no dishwasher.
Re:Bob Cassette Rewinder: Hacking Detergent DRM by secondcoming on Sunday May 02, 2021 @04:06PM (#27018547)
Every place I've rented in London had a dishwasher, and we're talking 6 places over 15 years