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Re:Apple runs App Store with 78% profit margin, according to... by Google234 on Sunday May 02, 2021 @06:39AM (#27013979)
Please never do that. PWA are 99.999% spam. See Firefox’s research on the topic. I hate every time I visit a new site and there’s some dumb pop up on my browser asking me to enable push notifications. Sometimes I miss click and end up having to go through the annoying process of removing them.

Fortunately, Apple cares about its users and won’t enable a feature that is only abused for spam.

Re:Apple runs App Store with 78% profit margin, according to... by afavour on Sunday May 02, 2021 @10:06AM (#27015413)
PWAs are just push notifications, it’s an entire app system. Home Screen, offline functionality, intents to share with other apps/the web, seamless updates, etc etc etc. Not to mention that the push permission problem is easily solved, indeed is _already_ solved by Google in Chrome. A lot of it is actually an improvement on APIs like AppCache that Apple originally implemented for iOS web apps!

“a feature that is only abused for spam” is a wild misreading of PWAs. It’s true that they aren’t used too widely today but that’s _because_ Apple refuses to support it. I think it was a huge strategic misfire to create this PWA “brand” as it allows everyone to throw the baby out with the bathwater. The vast majority of the APIs involved make sense.

Re:Apple runs App Store with 78% profit margin, according to... by afavour on Sunday May 02, 2021 @12:11PM (#27016397)
Above should start “PWAs aren’t”, d’oh…
Re:Apple runs App Store with 78% profit margin, according to... by fragile_frogs on Sunday May 02, 2021 @07:17AM (#27014194)
Weird, I am using Chrome on Android and 99.999% of the time I don't see a popup asking me to enable push notifications.

What websites are you visiting?

Re:Apple runs App Store with 78% profit margin, according to... by ex3ndr on Sunday May 02, 2021 @09:51AM (#27015276)
Chrome is a different. Chrome shows you some notifications only after you visited it couple of times or was on site couple of minutes.
Re:Apple runs App Store with 78% profit margin, according to... by hotz on Sunday May 02, 2021 @09:00AM (#27014918)
I like to think of it as bad implementations and people not considering the user experience.

Sometimes you just have project managers or clients who want it like that regardless of how awful it is. In that scenario I think it's the developer's responsibility to give push back. It's why I don't get asked about implementing pop-ups on homepages.

Re:Apple runs App Store with 78% profit margin, according to... by rchaud on Sunday May 02, 2021 @10:15AM (#27015500)
> I hate every time I visit a new site and there’s some dumb pop up on my browser asking me to enable push notifications.

So just don't click 'Allow'. Why should the manufacturer have to intervene here?

Re:Apple runs App Store with 78% profit margin, according to... by olliej on Sunday May 02, 2021 @08:17PM (#27020332)
... because I don't want the obnoxious "let me spam you" dialog to occur at all.

A feature that's primary use case is spam, is a user hostile feature that has no business being in a browser.

Re:Apple runs App Store with 78% profit margin, according to... by hombre_fatal on Sunday May 02, 2021 @12:12PM (#27016407)
That’s a UX issue with your preferred browser.