Re:“About one-third of Basecamp employees accepted buyouts t...
by darkerside on Saturday May 01, 2021 @07:23AM
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Have you not talked with colleagues about kids being out of school for the pandemic, what you need to do about childcare, how to make up the lost time, etc? No idea of anyone's opinions on whether schools should reopen, how kids are going back, and whether it makes sense?
These can all be interpreted as political issues, and I think very reasonable to talk about. The policy is so arbitrary that it ends up being that you can't talk about things that the founders don't want you to talk about.
I get the sentiment, but the execution is chilling.
Re:“About one-third of Basecamp employees accepted buyouts t...
by ALittleLight on Saturday May 01, 2021 @07:27AM
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I don't see any of those things as political (except in the meaningless sense of the word where everything is political) and I don't think that's what they were talking about banning. If we actually worked at Basecamp we'd just fire off an email to whomever to confirm, but as is I think the best we can go with is a fair reading. To me, Basecamp wasn't banning speech of the form "I can't wait for the kids to be back in person at school. The schools have been closed too long."
Re:“About one-third of Basecamp employees accepted buyouts t...
by darkerside on Saturday May 01, 2021 @08:25AM
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That's the problem with a policy like that. It just becomes another cudgel for people in power to arbitrarily decide what people can talk about. Not dissimilar to how everybody speeds so anyone can be pulled over.
In the absence of clear policy, it comes back to trust, which needs to be earned and can be lost. I don't work at Basecamp, so I don't know whether they "deserved" to lose trust and my opinion doesn't really matter. But the evidence appears to show that trust was dead, whoever killed it.
Re:“About one-third of Basecamp employees accepted buyouts t...
by cercatrova on Saturday May 01, 2021 @08:27PM
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Yes, it is their company, they can run it as they please. How is that controversial? They have power, and they wield that power as they wish. If people don't like it, they can wield their own power to leave and find a new job as well, especially with 6 months of severance.
Re:“About one-third of Basecamp employees accepted buyouts t...
by darkerside on Saturday May 01, 2021 @11:31PM
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Well, they did. I don't know why others find it controversial, but I do because I see a lot of destroyed value here, mostly over what I consider a failure of empathy and understanding.
We all saw what happened, and we're talking about it because most of us think things could have gone a little better.
Re:“About one-third of Basecamp employees accepted buyouts t...
by enumjorge on Saturday May 01, 2021 @08:22AM
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You’d be surprised at what some people consider political. In some parts of the US acknowledging the severity of the pandemic and admitting to getting vaccinated for covid would be considered political.
Re:“About one-third of Basecamp employees accepted buyouts t...
by cema on Saturday May 01, 2021 @08:36PM
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Is it true or is it hearsay? I have not had much contract with remote parts off the country during this period and am not sure.
Re:“About one-third of Basecamp employees accepted buyouts t...
by anoncake on Saturday May 01, 2021 @07:35AM
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Whether schools open is a decision made by public authorities. How is it not political?
I'm struggling to imagine what kind of political thing you would say about school. I can't share my thoughts on the school board, pedagogy, common core, racist school names, etc? Doesn't seem like an onerous restriction and I can't recall ever having a work conversation that would've violated it.