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Re:Google's push to bring employees back to offices, some sa... by throwaway6734 on Friday April 30, 2021 @11:26AM (#26994657)
Awful in what respects?

I was under the impression that it was sort of like Harvard: lots of applications, but a good chunk of those denied could have just have easily been accepted if there was space

You seem to have experience with their hiring and I have none (only applying) so I have much more faith in what you're saying than my preconceived ideas.

Re:Google's push to bring employees back to offices, some sa... by throwaways885 on Friday April 30, 2021 @11:54AM (#26995084)
As in, a significant chunk of candidates cannot write code, have outright lies on their CV, have never used anything other than visual basic, etc...

In addition, basic statistics suggests you need all new hires to be better than 50% of the existing company, or your average skill level will go down, which makes hiring just hard mathematically.

Re:Google's push to bring employees back to offices, some sa... by throwaway6734 on Friday April 30, 2021 @12:35PM (#26995698)
Can't you rule a lot of those candidate (other than CV liars) out algorithmically?

>In addition, basic statistics suggests you need all new hires to be better than 50% of the existing company,

This seems especially difficult when hiring graduates/junior roles due to the lack of unknowns.

Thanks for taking the time to respond!

Re:Google's push to bring employees back to offices, some sa... by throwaways885 on Friday April 30, 2021 @12:49PM (#26995912)
> Can't you rule a lot of those candidate (other than CV liars) out algorithmically?

I think all companies do this, but it's really easy to game the metrics. People do it unconsciously, even.

> This seems especially difficult when hiring graduates/junior roles due to the lack of unknowns.

Yep, so it takes hours of interviewing per candidate, across dozens of candidates just to hire to minimise the risk for one role. At a global level, FAANGs are hiring loads, but at a team/local level there's never enough people due to specific team needs or turnover.

Re:Google's push to bring employees back to offices, some sa... by hnnnnnnng on Friday April 30, 2021 @01:02PM (#26996096)
Cannot write code is very different from cannot write code on a whiteboard to solve a difficult problem in a limited amount of time in a stressful setting where you constantly have to keep talking and explaining what you are doing and cannot pause to think.
Re:Google's push to bring employees back to offices, some sa... by throwaways885 on Friday April 30, 2021 @01:44PM (#26996754)
I know that's a popular trope, but I really mean the 'cannot code' crowd. They are separate groups.
Re:Google's push to bring employees back to offices, some sa... by hnnnnnnng on Friday April 30, 2021 @04:10PM (#26998662)
I don't understand how cannot code would even hold a job for more than a month.
Re:Google's push to bring employees back to offices, some sa... by throwaways885 on Wednesday May 05, 2021 @09:45AM (#27049709)
There are many people who can't do anything except React.js, for example.