> origins from the black community
gotta give credit to the engineers who pioneered electronic music synthesis, like Robert Moog, or the Japanese who created Korg synthesizers in the article.
Influences for any technology, project, art, etc come from a large web of sources. Racial gatekeeping and attribution is close-minded.
Let the people enjoy techno without guilt.
And that's OK, there's literally nothing wrong with this. I think there's also a lot of stuff to be said about how there's anecdotes about how the early rave scene had a lot of previously unheard of racial unity going on, stuff like skinhead and rasta gangs or even rival football ultras encountering each other and literally just vibing when they'd be fighting each other before
GP made it seem like whites being a big part of current techno scene is bad.
> The first stuff anyone started calling techno was pretty black
you could say the first stuff anyone started calling electronic music was pretty white. point is, racial attribution for something that has a huge array of influences is silly.
> unheard of racial unity going on
yes, the way it should be.
I don't see that; I don't see any "guilt", using your word. Can you point it out? People have other motives.
My impression is that you brought your own (reactionary?) bias to it, using a reactionary talking point whether it really applies or not. Why bring down someone who is trying to expand their experiences, knowledge, and community, in a world where racism is common and leads to many people being excluded. We should work to include - that's great, creative, positive; there's no reason it needs to be motivated by guilt.
> using a reactionary talking point
???
it's a series about electronic music history.
> its prodimently white. I have since taken active steps to seek out the lesser know black artists to support
I couldn't care less who the specific artist is for techno music i listen to.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CV8_eUJ6C1w [ Acid Mix Detroit Chicago - New Dance Show 1989 ] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rz2wInkVkRU [ Techno Jam - New Dance Show 1989 ] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9aUAqboAvQM [ City of Techno (Detroit) - New Dance Show 1991 ]
Great examples of the racial diversity in the early scene in Detroit. I think this was some public access TV show?
Anyways speaking from living in Latin America the scene here is HUGE for techno and house, I would probably say the numbers here are bigger and more diverse than I've seen for the same scene in North America and balance out the melanation factor quite a lot
I know Colombia is really into it. I went to pretty solid parties in Brazil, at Fabriketa in Sao paulo. Felt fairly similar to the NY scene.
NY would have the big events for the "cool" crowd, big showcases like afterlife and stuff at the Mirage. Then smaller clubs like Nowadays, where you could get an 8 hour Wata Igarashi set etc. Underground one-offs like The Bunker.
Plus it seemed like a lot of Europe's cities have their scene and they focus more on that. Of course Berlin is high quality but like Copenhagen focuses on schacke and stuff. Whereas NY you can get a taste of everything in a year.
Colombia had someone spinning that who was when she was still alive quite the amusement because she changed her name to ladyzunga cyborg and then... this
https://cdn.images.express.co.uk/img/dynamic/80/590x/Colombi...
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Berlin, Amsterdam, London, etc, each had a larger scene than the entirety of the US combined.
Black people in the US invented basically the three modern music roots:
- Blues/Rock
- Techno
- Rap
The problem is rap had much better marketing in the US, ditto with rhythm and blues in the 90's.
Also, by "rap" I think you mean 'hip-hop', which includes sampling and mixing, especially using turntables.
> Well, blues is the son of jazz music :)
Try some Muddy Waters and John Coltrane, listen, then report back.
With due respect, beyond every form of music being related to every other (just like you are probably a distant relative of mine), they are such different genres that my impression of the comment - which could be completely wrong - is that the commenter has not listed to jazz, blues, or both.
And I’d argue that blues and rock are separate, but that most rock until late 90s was heavily influenced by blues. But that’s all just fun trying to draw lines where there isn’t a clear difference sometimes.
PD: I didn´t put Blues/Rock as separate entities, but two genres where late blues albums could be considered something as proto-rock. And ditto with jazz-swing-blues. It's like a continuum.
Good documentary on the origins of house and techno from 70s disco, to 4 to the floor disco and the coming of the 808, how this moved to house in chicago and some sci fi nerds with a love for kraftwerk in detroit started techno. Then how the UK got involved and these DJs from the US, used to playing to 50-80 people in tiny underground, often gay clubs would come to the UK and play to 10,000 in massive outdoor / warehouse events and rave was born
I for one did not know it's roots took place back in the 70s and from the black community.
These days when I look at techno artists and their raving followers, its prodimently white. I have since taken active steps to seek out the lesser know black artists to support.
Many modern music fundamentals are origins from the black community and very little is correctly attributed and/or black artists are sidelined.