Apple Reports Second Quarter Results

Re:Apple Reports Second Quarter Results by dylan604 on Wednesday April 28, 2021 @05:56PM (#26974755)

Not sure I agree with that. The trashcan MacPro was definitely not useable as far as what Pro Mac users wanted/needed. That was definitely designed for the designer's sake totally misunderstanding the user's needs.

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Re:Apple Reports Second Quarter Results by davidivadavid on Wednesday April 28, 2021 @06:14PM (#26974913)

So it was just bad design.

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Re:Apple Reports Second Quarter Results by pembrook on Wednesday April 28, 2021 @06:16PM (#26974926)

So it was poorly designed.

Not sure how that has anything to do with the parent's argument.

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Re:Apple Reports Second Quarter Results by dylan604 on Wednesday April 28, 2021 @06:20PM (#26974967)

>Designers design for usability.

It wasn't usable for the majority of the market. Even in the infamous mea culpa Apple made about it, they admitted they designed themselves into a corner. It was designed so poorly, they had to take years to undo it after admitting it needed to be done.

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Re:Apple Reports Second Quarter Results by ska on Wednesday April 28, 2021 @07:40PM (#26975620)

Right, but that doesn't change the fact that usability is part of design, not something separable from it.

GP was complaining about the common and incorrect trope that design is limited to aesthetics.

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Re:Apple Reports Second Quarter Results by mrkstu on Wednesday April 28, 2021 @08:14PM (#26975848)

I think he was complaining that Apple was the one that had lost the plot and had started separating the two, not that they should be.

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Re:Apple Reports Second Quarter Results by ska on Thursday April 29, 2021 @12:52PM (#26983542)

I think it's pretty much impossible to determine apple's intent here, for the obvious reasons.

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