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Re:Facebook Reports First Quarter 2021 Results [pdf] by jjmorrison on Wednesday April 28, 2021 @05:23PM (#26974388)
> 8% YoY user growth and 46% YoY revenue growth

Curious how well understood the mechanics are of this. I've been fascinated by how clever the whole model works. They know revenue growth needs to outpace their ability to increase available ad space (so user growth or attention growth). So they are heavily reliant on data to improve ad targeting so they can drive more conversion per ad impression.

The power of the ad auction model is that 100% of the improved efficiency of ad targeting is translated to revenue for Facebook. Advertisers will pay $X for a conversion in their ROI calculations - so Facebook will get the maximum amount the market will pay a certain for a given conversion. Advertisers are actually a little worst off as targeting gets better - the conversion cost stays the same and the number of impressions goes down.

To keep growing revenue at this pace, Facebook needs to continually feed the beast with better and better data so they can squeeze more and more conversions out of their existing ad space.

The only other two ways to grow revenue is more users and more time from users. Which is getting tougher and tougher. That's why this Apple fight is so important to Facebook - it's really their lifeblood right now.

Re:Facebook Reports First Quarter 2021 Results [pdf] by cm2012 on Wednesday April 28, 2021 @05:25PM (#26974416)
Exactly this. FB ad targeting is revolutionary for companies to match with prospective users. I've managed 50m+ in FB spend, getting start-ups in front of some really niche audiences, and nothing compares to the FB algo.
Re:Facebook Reports First Quarter 2021 Results [pdf] by wsetchell on Wednesday April 28, 2021 @05:30PM (#26974456)
Increased signal (e.g. more or different data) is one of the many levers to increase ad value.

Without changing signals you can still make meaningful long term progress through ranking, delivery, and format improvements.

Re:Facebook Reports First Quarter 2021 Results [pdf] by jjmorrison on Wednesday April 28, 2021 @05:32PM (#26974484)
True. They do seem quite obsessed with slurping more data. i wonder how much it would hurt them in the long term if they couldn't get more.
Re:Facebook Reports First Quarter 2021 Results [pdf] by ethbr0 on Wednesday April 28, 2021 @09:22PM (#26976411)
Because they'll push for regulations to only regulate data collection, grandfathering in possession of existing sets.
Re:Facebook Reports First Quarter 2021 Results [pdf] by ah88 on Wednesday April 28, 2021 @05:26PM (#26974426)
They have been focusing on selling other products besides ads so curious how much of that revenue growth is from ads vs other products.
Re:Facebook Reports First Quarter 2021 Results [pdf] by bigzyg33k on Wednesday April 28, 2021 @05:33PM (#26974502)
They mention this in the earnings report

Advertising accounted for $25.4 Billion of their revenue, up from $17.4 Billion in the same quarter last year, an increase of 46%

Revenue from other sources was $732 Million, up from $297 million in the same quarter last year, an increase of 146%

Re:Facebook Reports First Quarter 2021 Results [pdf] by sanxiyn on Wednesday April 28, 2021 @05:33PM (#26974491)
It's all there in financial statement. It's all ads.
Re:Facebook Reports First Quarter 2021 Results [pdf] by jjmorrison on Wednesday April 28, 2021 @05:30PM (#26974457)
Not sure if the breakdown is exact but financials say $25B in ads, and $700M in "other"
Re:Facebook Reports First Quarter 2021 Results [pdf] by randomsearch on Wednesday April 28, 2021 @06:09PM (#26974872)
It’s odd that their DAU are increasing, because at least in the western countries I’m aware of, young people don’t use Facebook much. So I’d expect a gentle decline over time. Where is the growth coming from?
Re:Facebook Reports First Quarter 2021 Results [pdf] by babelfish on Wednesday April 28, 2021 @06:26PM (#26975023)
The majority of humans do not live in western countries
Re:Facebook Reports First Quarter 2021 Results [pdf] by randomsearch on Thursday April 29, 2021 @01:20PM (#26983896)
Are you saying young people in non-western countries think facebook is cool?
Re:Facebook Reports First Quarter 2021 Results [pdf] by babelfish on Thursday April 29, 2021 @03:37PM (#26985624)
Re:Facebook Reports First Quarter 2021 Results [pdf] by randomsearch on Thursday April 29, 2021 @05:12PM (#26986781)
I don't see any data by age there. I searched around the site a bit. What we need is facebook use by age for western and other countries, e.g. USA vs India. I can't see that.

I don't debate that countries like India have large Facebook usage, but the question I asked was - is there growth coming from the young users in countries like India? Because that goes against my experience, albeit limited to Western countries.

If it's coming from young users in India and similar countries, that's really interesting to me because it shows that teenage trends are not as universal as I'd expect.

If that's not the case, then where is the growth coming from?

Genuine question (unsure why downvoted) and want to get to the bottom of it.

Re:Facebook Reports First Quarter 2021 Results [pdf] by nerfhammer on Wednesday April 28, 2021 @06:12PM (#26974898)
young people use instagram constantly
Re:Facebook Reports First Quarter 2021 Results [pdf] by randomsearch on Thursday April 29, 2021 @01:19PM (#26983891)
I thought those stats were for Facebook, no?