As someone who thinks what happened at the capitol was really scary and very serious the insurrection language is still a joke.

Cambridge defines insurrection as:

> an organized attempt by a group of people to defeat their government and take control of their country, usually by violence:

This was more like an organized attempt to get drunk on Budweiser and listen to Kenney Chesney and take "cool" pictures in the capital building for social media likes. It was closer to rushing area 51 than a real rebellion. They deserve to go to jail for sure if they trespassed in the capitol building or did anything else violent but to make it out to be some kind of orchestrated power grab is ridiculous.

I’m sure that a small group had planned something very serious. I don’t know how many of the 2000 people were a part of that, and how many were, as you say, “trespassing.”

I found it very serious too. I have a serious medical condition. It’s very important that I be able to get to hospital quickly. I’m terrified of being in a place like the capitol, and being stuck there without access to an ambulance.

My point - and this is not a popular one - is that any gathering that has the potential to delay emergency services is a serious matter. Anyone who causes it should be held accountable for the deaths that result.

I don't disagree with anything your saying but none of that makes that a insurrection.

If people can’t get out, or medics can’t get in, that’s serious. Nothing to do with politics.

I don’t know whether or to what degree the OK protestors blocked movement of people.

If they did, then yes.

Obviously most of the group did not have any real plans. But some did. There were explosives planted, maps of underground escape routes, zip ties for taking prisoners, chat messages planning and coordinating, and I suspect much more that is not released yet due to the ongoing investigations.

Looks like a dead ringer for the definition to me. It doesn't have to be -well- planned or likely to succeed.

It’s hard for me to see that as a problem. What problem is that causing for you, or anybody else?

if you live here it sucks. soldiers in the streets are -EV in the vibe department.

Yep I lived in DC. I haven't felt that the consequences are so terrible... What are your thoughts?

Nothing more permanent than a temporary solution. When does it end? Or is this the new normal?

I don't know the answer. What are your thoughts?

Their internal report looks like something you'd expect to see published by the CIA, not a private tech company. Is this progress?

it definitely seems like technical progress! it reminds me of reading about xkeyscore, except that Fb is doing both intelligence and interventions on the same platform.

I'd love to learn about CORGI and HELLCAT and those other nifty tools they're using.

What do you mean by your question?

Of course it's progress. It's just a matter of asking what we are progressing towards.

Somewhere along the line collective benefits were dropped from "progress". Bit like a unification of Disney land and military school. All we know is that we are going.

Facebook was funded by CIA in-q-tel

Dupe. Discussed yesterday: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26946442