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Re:Cheerleader’s Snapchat rant leads to ‘momentous’ Supreme ... by disabled on Monday April 26, 2021 @03:50PM (#26947162)
> As it sits today, speaking your mind can literally be a death sentence, if you happen to say something a mob doesn't agree with.

Exactly, this is a great reason to leave the USA, especially if you already have health issues. With AI taking hold and it getting harder to emigrate, the time to leave is now. Jobs with benefits for programmers are going to become more uncommon, with remote work being possible, as more contract work is going to be offered.

I am a dual US|EU (Croatian) citizen, who is culturally American. I can legally live in about 30 countries (Freedom of Movement rights) as an EU citizen. I left the US over healthcare. For most people on here, Ireland is the place to go to get EU citizenship. Once you get EU citizenship, it levels the playing field and you can go to places with better healthcare than Ireland.

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Re:Cheerleader’s Snapchat rant leads to ‘momentous’ Supreme ... by nradov on Monday April 26, 2021 @04:24PM (#26947598)
More people migrate from the EU to USA than the reverse. So it seems the majority disagree with you.

https://mises.org/wire/3-times-many-europeans-move-us-other-...

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Re:Cheerleader’s Snapchat rant leads to ‘momentous’ Supreme ... by syops on Monday April 26, 2021 @05:56PM (#26948754)
Most Europeans from Western Europe speak English and have at least some cultural knowledge of the U.S. due to our cultural hegemonic status. It’s easier for Greeks to come to the U.S. and integrate than vice versa. Also the U.S. has a long history of taking in immigrants. I suggest that looking solely at respective numbers of immigrants doesn’t tell the whole story.
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Re:Cheerleader’s Snapchat rant leads to ‘momentous’ Supreme ... by Fern_Blossom on Monday April 26, 2021 @05:52PM (#26948708)
Nah, people escape from the USA all the time. No one moves here. Our border walls are to keep people in, not out. I mean, why else would 2018 and 2019 have record immigration?

https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2020/08/20/key-finding...

https://www.migrationpolicy.org/article/frequently-requested...

Look, people should live where they want, be happy and be proud where they're at. Nothing wrong with that. But single platform ideals to make wide sweeping judgements are a good reason to keep a two party political system. Focusing on one issue and bringing a hammer down to shatter everything is rather unproductive. Yea, the USA has it's problems. Duh. Just like everywhere else has problems too. But more people run to the USA. If someone is privileged enough to find somewhere better, good, go for it. No one wants to stop you.

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Re:Cheerleader’s Snapchat rant leads to ‘momentous’ Supreme ... by tomc1985 on Monday April 26, 2021 @07:23PM (#26949600)
Wonderful, so how does a natural-born US citizen without a dual citizenship get the right to live and work in Europe?

The only ways I am aware of are having a work sponsor, the Dutch-American friendship treaty, or taking advantage of a country that offers citizenship to descendants of emigres, like Greece

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Re:Cheerleader’s Snapchat rant leads to ‘momentous’ Supreme ... by rswail on Friday April 30, 2021 @05:58AM (#26991554)
How to immigrate is basically either as a partner of an EU citizen, on a work permit, or descendants of EU citizens.

There's a bunch of resources online to find out. Whether you are a US citizen (natural born or otherwise) tends to be irrelevant.

This portal has a simple way to find out: https://ec.europa.eu/immigration/

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