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Re:iOS 14.5 delivers Unlock iPhone with Apple Watch, new pri... by jensvdh on Monday April 26, 2021 @02:52PM (#26946458)
I hate TouchID, never works when my fingers are sweaty or I'm cooking or anything like that.

FaceID is perfect.

Re:iOS 14.5 delivers Unlock iPhone with Apple Watch, new pri... by masklinn on Monday April 26, 2021 @03:39PM (#26947029)
FaceID is perfect in no sense of the term.

FaceID works better when your hands are dirty or unavailable (e.g. you're wearing gloves), TouchID works better when your face is covered or your look changed slightly[0].

FaceID has been a strict downgrade for me, there are very few situations where FaceID works and TouchID wouldn't have, the reverse is a daily occurrence. And things would be even worse if I couldn't work from home, as TouchID works just fine with a mask.

[0] in bed without my glasses FaceID works 0% of the time, even resetting the entire thing and re-registering my face with and without glasses, it works all of 2 days before it stops recognising me without glasses.

Re:iOS 14.5 delivers Unlock iPhone with Apple Watch, new pri... by mirthflat83 on Monday April 26, 2021 @03:53PM (#26947204)
You’re holding your iPhone too close to your face when you’re in bed.
Re:iOS 14.5 delivers Unlock iPhone with Apple Watch, new pri... by philsnow on Monday April 26, 2021 @04:04PM (#26947353)
my vision is poor enough that without contacts/glasses I can't simultaneously both

  1. hold the phone far enough away from my face for faceid to work, and 
  2. focus my eyes on the screen
so if I wake up in the middle of the night, I always have to use my passcode to unlock my phone.
Re:iOS 14.5 delivers Unlock iPhone with Apple Watch, new pri... by 1123581321 on Monday April 26, 2021 @08:23PM (#26950103)
Same issue here. I have found a way to sort of look past the phone that reliably unlocks at night.
Re:iOS 14.5 delivers Unlock iPhone with Apple Watch, new pri... by heavyset_go on Monday April 26, 2021 @04:50PM (#26947941)
Sounds like an ADA violation to me.
Re:iOS 14.5 delivers Unlock iPhone with Apple Watch, new pri... by ASalazarMX on Monday April 26, 2021 @03:08PM (#26946655)
Why not have both? This whole topic would be a non-issue if we still had Touch ID as an option.
Re:iOS 14.5 delivers Unlock iPhone with Apple Watch, new pri... by dwaite on Monday April 26, 2021 @07:47PM (#26949789)
If a device supported and was provisioned with both, and unlocked with either, you would have double the potential for biometric attacks/vulnerabilities (remember that FaceID is an order of magnitude stronger biometric).

If you support just one with the other disabled, it is wasted hardware/space in a device with extremely limited size/cost budget. If you require both, you haven't fixed the usability issues.

Re:iOS 14.5 delivers Unlock iPhone with Apple Watch, new pri... by ghaff on Monday April 26, 2021 @03:42PM (#26947064)
Now you're taking up a fair bit of front of the phone real estate (and adding some cost) for a feature that I'm guessing most people don't care about. [ADDED: As others note there are potentially other options though that don't involve putting the home button back.]
Re:iOS 14.5 delivers Unlock iPhone with Apple Watch, new pri... by mjcohen on Monday April 26, 2021 @07:28PM (#26949639)
My Samsung S10e has the fingerprint reader on the power button. I have it set to recognize my left index finger and right thumb. Works great.

The touchID on my new MacBook Pro is extremely useful. Trained on right index finger.

Re:iOS 14.5 delivers Unlock iPhone with Apple Watch, new pri... by koyote on Tuesday April 27, 2021 @12:53AM (#26952142)
Fingerprint readers have been living under the screen in other phones for several years now.
Re:iOS 14.5 delivers Unlock iPhone with Apple Watch, new pri... by jen20 on Monday April 26, 2021 @03:26PM (#26946869)
How about anywhere cold enough to require gloves, and reasonable enough to require face masks?
Re:iOS 14.5 delivers Unlock iPhone with Apple Watch, new pri... by ASalazarMX on Monday April 26, 2021 @04:35PM (#26947740)
In those dire situations I would opt for passcode unlocking with smartphone gloves. Face ID, Touch ID and passcode, only the most extreme scenarios would need more.
Re:iOS 14.5 delivers Unlock iPhone with Apple Watch, new pri... by jen20 on Monday April 26, 2021 @04:45PM (#26947872)
That’s great. I’d prefer to use watch unlocking.

Also, these are not “extreme” or “dire” or even uncommon conditions - most of Northern Europe, Canada, and the north-eastern USA experience several months of such conditions every year.

Re:iOS 14.5 delivers Unlock iPhone with Apple Watch, new pri... by fomine3 on Tuesday April 27, 2021 @03:29AM (#26953088)
Iris auth on Galaxy S8/S9 was great but it's gone.
Re:iOS 14.5 delivers Unlock iPhone with Apple Watch, new pri... by r00fus on Monday April 26, 2021 @05:32PM (#26948452)
Let me add to that several more anecdata: my parents could never get TouchID to work; it required them to re-register on a weekly basis. I don't know if it's because of their advanced age or physiology, but in winter, my fingers were also not reliable due to dryness.

FaceID has been quite good other than the masks issue. I just wish Apple would allow a grace period for rechecking auth.

Re:iOS 14.5 delivers Unlock iPhone with Apple Watch, new pri... by iso1631 on Tuesday April 27, 2021 @03:12AM (#26952985)
There's no reason that a phone couldn't have touchid and faceid, other than the desire for every square mm of space to be a screen (any didn't they have touch ID on the back of the phone for a while too?)
Re:iOS 14.5 delivers Unlock iPhone with Apple Watch, new pri... by SilverRed on Tuesday April 27, 2021 @03:22AM (#26953050)
Thats a very big "other than" virtually all users like and want to keep the full screen size. Their best next move would be to include underscreen fingerprint scanning and face id in the next iphone.
Re:iOS 14.5 delivers Unlock iPhone with Apple Watch, new pri... by yreg on Monday April 26, 2021 @03:09PM (#26946660)
+1, FaceID is perfect for me and so is Watch unlock (on the Mac)
Re:iOS 14.5 delivers Unlock iPhone with Apple Watch, new pri... by dan_hawkins on Wednesday April 28, 2021 @06:00AM (#26967634)
I've run into this problem with my iPhone 8 but almost never with my iPhone SE 1st gen - talking about constant regression.