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Re:And the winner is…who cares? by yanivlib on Monday April 26, 2021 @05:45AM (#26940836)
Yeah, I miss the good old days of movies with no political message whatsoever such as The Matrix, Forrest Gump and American Beauty.
Re:And the winner is…who cares? by goodpoint on Monday April 26, 2021 @06:11AM (#26940992)
I'm going to assume this was sarcasm.
Re:And the winner is…who cares? by Katzmann1983 on Monday April 26, 2021 @06:04AM (#26940954)
I had to analyse Forest gump in my english class. Hell yeah, there is a lot of politcal message in it.
Re:And the winner is…who cares? by giorgosts on Monday April 26, 2021 @06:06AM (#26940963)
Or better older days that oscar nominated films came straight out of state propaganda offices, eg. Days of Glory, starring Gregory Peck https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0036748/ that whitewashes Stalinism because we had to win the war and the Soviets were allies.
Re:And the winner is…who cares? by mikestew on Monday April 26, 2021 @12:54PM (#26944799)
I prefer that my propoganda have no whitewashing, and star real American men such as John Wayne:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Green_Berets_(film)

Re:And the winner is…who cares? by ljm on Monday April 26, 2021 @01:08PM (#26945018)
I honestly don't understand this current hang up on things being 'political'. The movies are largely going to be a reflection of the world we live in at that point in time, tapping into the collective consciousness of the moment.

Things feel more turbulent now, for many people, than in the 90s. Therefore we don't have 90's or early 2000s style movies about boring life or other inane things. Office Space would be a different film if it was written now, and Dude Where's My Car probably wouldn't even exist.

Lots of films were political about Vietnam during that period of time.

Lots of films were political about the war in Iraq, arguably too heavily in the US' favour to keep that support drummed up, after 9/11 happened.

Now it's about things like representation of minorities, nationalism, right wing threats, and so on, and I suppose "it's political" is another way of saying you're against the politics the movie chooses to explore, or represent.

To that end, it's only political if you disagree with it, and that lines up with me feeling that 'political' is being used as a pejorative.

(you as in anyone, not specifically you, the parent)

Re:And the winner is…who cares? by Hitton on Monday April 26, 2021 @05:53AM (#26940880)
There were always political messages, but difference is that in the past emphasis was on story with little political message sprinkled on top. Nowadays story is just a vehicle for the politics.
Re:And the winner is…who cares? by michaelt on Monday April 26, 2021 @06:38AM (#26941123)
Eh, depends on the lens you're looking through.

Some would say a movie with a hero named Captain America who is literally wearing a flag is clearly political - even if in terms of plot and message the film is disneyfied and chinese-film-censor-approved.

Lots of iceberg above the water, very little below.

In comparison, Full Metal Jacket doesn't have a hero dressed in a flag - but oooooh boy does it have a message about the experience and nature of war.

Re:And the winner is…who cares? by MisterBastahrd on Monday April 26, 2021 @06:58AM (#26941240)
Yeah, let's see... superheroes... political...

There was an early superhero who became popular by halting an execution, beating up a man who was disciplining his wife, and terrorizing a corrupt US Senator. In the next few books, he would force an arms dealer to visit a warzone endangered by his weapons and force a mine operator who operated a mine without proper safety precautions to be subjected to a mine collapse. Hell, he even fought against gentrification, which gets him hunted by the military and the police.

The superhero in question?

Superman.

Some people might call it "political."

Others might call it "life."

Siegel and Schuster created a character to fight for the common man, and they used fantastic life experiences in the beginning instead of creating monsters and ghouls to fight. The first super-villain in the book didn't get introduced until year 2.

Little Nemo might have been an acid trip, but Superman at his start was a political power fantasy about helping the little guy.

Re:And the winner is…who cares? by klmadfejno on Monday April 26, 2021 @12:39PM (#26944593)
Captain America is generally about the conflict between patriotism and government loyalty. For a superhero movie, I'd say it's more thematically interesting than most. Government != political though.