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Re:And the winner is…who cares? by paxys on Monday April 26, 2021 @05:41AM (#26940817)
The only thing more consistent than the annual entertainment industry award shows is the barrage of "no one cares about the Oscars/Emmys/Grammys/XYZ anymore" articles right after.

These awards have only ever had one purpose – for the industry establishment to pat each other on the back and gatekeep outsiders, and that is as relevant today as it was 20 or 50 years ago. They have never been about evaluating quality of content.

And there's no point showing the same graphs of falling ratings, because, like all other forms of entertainment nowadays, more and more people are streaming these shows and/or watching parts of it later on their own schedule.

Re:And the winner is…who cares? by bumblelad on Monday April 26, 2021 @12:54PM (#26944796)
What broke my spirit as a young kid getting into animation was the discovery that nobody at the Oscars basically gives a shit about animation. Flat out. 'Judges' willingly admit they don't see cartoons as anything but for kids and will regularly not even watch all of the nominees...aside from the Disney cartoons with their kids in theaters. Hence why Disney always wins animation awards. So imagine my disillusion when discovering the great stuff that came out from Japan or France, to lose to the crap by-the-numbers musical cartoons churned out by Disney for the last ~30 years.

This does create a problem though, because while nobody gives a shit about industry awards, they do generate hype and interest (and sales). And these sales generate future projects. Nobody is going to basically attempt an animation project aimed at adults when they know they can't get it marketed as anything but for kids, and even then, always play second fiddle to Disney.

And hence, animation is effectively all but dead in America. You have your Rick and Mortys and Frozens and not much else.

Re:And the winner is…who cares? by Bayart on Monday April 26, 2021 @01:33PM (#26945337)
The Oscars are just a reflection of American culture and the Hollywood film industry. And that's just fine. They don't have to be attuned to the entire world.
Re:And the winner is…who cares? by renewiltord on Monday April 26, 2021 @03:04PM (#26946596)
Sure, but that's just because niches are usually ignored by the mainstream. Sci-fi novels are rarely recognized as great works of literature, but I adore them for the ideas they bring up and the worlds they build. So I go look at the Nebula and Hugo awards, not at the Pulitzer for fiction.

Exhalation and Stories of your Life are two collections of short stories that I think should rank among the top few such anthologies. The fact that they're sci-fi doesn't reduce them, but they're unlikely to be really recognized because of the genre.

Re:And the winner is…who cares? by veridies on Monday April 26, 2021 @12:58PM (#26944885)
Yeah, it's sad – Wolfwalkers was a beautiful, innovative film. While you could argue Soul is better, no one even bothered to look into that category much because the winner was inevitable.
Re:And the winner is…who cares? by swyx on Monday April 26, 2021 @01:19PM (#26945162)
so why isn't there a separate "animation Oscars"?
Re:And the winner is…who cares? by Fricken on Monday April 26, 2021 @04:32PM (#26947688)
The Oscars have a category for best animated short, and best animated feature. Given the relatively tiny number of films produced in these categories, animation awards are disproportionately overrepresented.
Re:And the winner is…who cares? by Bayart on Monday April 26, 2021 @01:32PM (#26945322)
There are major animation awards, they're just not American.
Re:And the winner is…who cares? by MisterBastahrd on Monday April 26, 2021 @06:14AM (#26941010)
These shows are to sell movies / videos / CDs / subscriptions. They are hours-long infomercials wrapped up in gowns and tuxedoes telling you what you should watch and listen to and buy if you haven't already.

Parasite is a perfect example. The last subtitled movie Americans sat through with any sort of audience capacity was Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon. Without the Oscar hype, that movie is a flop in the US. But because it got that hype, people were trying to watch it any way they could, even if that meant spending extra on a streaming service to watch it from home.

Re:And the winner is…who cares? by HPsquared on Monday April 26, 2021 @11:59AM (#26944017)
There's just an absolute glut of entertainment now, the market is saturated.