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Re:Bye Aerospace Unveils 8-Seat All-Electric EFlyer 800 by manigandham on Friday April 23, 2021 @12:47PM (#26916596)
Electric drivetrains have the unique ability to recover energy, often used in braking for EV cars. Is there any corollary for recovering potential energy for electric planes?
Re:Bye Aerospace Unveils 8-Seat All-Electric EFlyer 800 by bdamm on Friday April 23, 2021 @12:51PM (#26916639)
There is at least one commercial EV aircraft that can do it, but frankly it won't be as big a deal as it is with cars. Cars are speeding up and slowing down all the time. Aircraft generally speed up, stay fast, and then slow down at the very end of the flight. And for most aircraft, the entire flight is powered from takeoff to landing. It could be useful in emergency situations where the pilot is at risk of overshooting the runway.

For aerobatic aircraft it could be a big deal. High power motors and the desire to be as light as possible will probably drive power recovery and even crazier stunts at airshows.

Re:Bye Aerospace Unveils 8-Seat All-Electric EFlyer 800 by jxf on Friday April 23, 2021 @12:48PM (#26916607)
The reason energy recovery in cars makes sense is that you're constantly stopping and starting. In a plane you definitely don't want the engine to stop running while you're in the air.
Re:Bye Aerospace Unveils 8-Seat All-Electric EFlyer 800 by manigandham on Friday April 23, 2021 @12:54PM (#26916674)
Isn't altitude ultimately a function of energy? If you're decreasing altitude wouldn't that be a decent amount of recovery?

Gas turbines need to keep running to sustain combustion but electric motors can start and stop instantly with current flow; it seems possible to use this as part of the dynamic control of the aircraft.

Re:Bye Aerospace Unveils 8-Seat All-Electric EFlyer 800 by dogma1138 on Friday April 23, 2021 @04:06PM (#26918639)
You don’t change altitude frequently enough and even if you could recover 80% of the energy you spent on reaching cruising altitude when you perform your landing approach it won’t be much, and probably won’t be worth the extra complexity and weight of an energy recovery system.

Unless we’re talking about very short flights the majority of your energy would be expanded at cruising altitude especially since electric engines have a fairly flat efficiency curve.

Re:Bye Aerospace Unveils 8-Seat All-Electric EFlyer 800 by LightG on Friday April 23, 2021 @12:55PM (#26916684)
Actually, why don't planes cycle climbing to a height, switch off the engines, glide for X miles, restart engines to climb, etc ...

Pretty sure I used to do that when I used to fly in my Microprose F-15 and was short on fuel.

Re:Bye Aerospace Unveils 8-Seat All-Electric EFlyer 800 by dogma1138 on Friday April 23, 2021 @04:08PM (#26918654)
Because it’s not a very efficient or pleasant flight experience, and it’s probably too much of a risk.
Re:Bye Aerospace Unveils 8-Seat All-Electric EFlyer 800 by greedo on Friday April 23, 2021 @01:51PM (#26917296)
Generally, you don't want to stop an engine that's running fine. It might just not restart...
Re:Bye Aerospace Unveils 8-Seat All-Electric EFlyer 800 by rmelly on Friday April 23, 2021 @12:50PM (#26916618)
Kindof. Currently used for emergency recovery: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ram_air_turbine
Re:Bye Aerospace Unveils 8-Seat All-Electric EFlyer 800 by sxates on Friday April 23, 2021 @12:50PM (#26916625)
Potentially on descent, but I think it's a much smaller potential benefit in an airplane, and perhaps tricky because you don't want to extract so much energy that you lose speed and stall.
Re:Bye Aerospace Unveils 8-Seat All-Electric EFlyer 800 by phire on Friday April 23, 2021 @12:55PM (#26916685)
Electric planes don't really need much breaking, except when coming in for a landing.

At that point, your flight is over and you don't need any extra range.

Re:Bye Aerospace Unveils 8-Seat All-Electric EFlyer 800 by layoutIfNeeded on Friday April 23, 2021 @12:51PM (#26916636)
Planes don’t brake (except for a brief moment while landing), so no.