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Re:Apple’s M1 Positioning Mocks the Entire x86 Business Model by izacus on Friday April 23, 2021 @05:07AM (#26912627)
Exactly, so what is the point here? How exactly is that different from Intel generations?

Why does Apple put different amount of cores and clocks into different products if the choice doesn't matter? It seems like there are performance differences there if they choose to install differently configured SoCs in different devices and even split them by pricing on the iMac.

So, please, explain where's this big difference? (With more than a single sentence of your words if possible.)

Re:Apple’s M1 Positioning Mocks the Entire x86 Business Model by soneil on Friday April 23, 2021 @05:57AM (#26912934)
I've seen nothing to indicate different products have different clock speeds?

So far we're seeing two differentiators. One is the use of the 7-GPU bin to hit the bottom-of-the-range price point for each product family. The other is simply the different thermal characteristics of different products - the passively cooled Air & iPad Pro will thermally throttle earlier than the actively cooled MBP, iMac & mini.

The products aren't being differentiated in silicon, they're being differentiated in feature & format. My mother can tell me the difference between an iPad and a macbook without describing anything that she can't see with her own eyes.

Re:Apple’s M1 Positioning Mocks the Entire x86 Business Model by oarsinsync on Friday April 23, 2021 @10:29AM (#26915128)
The M1 in the macbook air throttles when it gets too hot due to the thermal characteristics of the case (no active cooling).

The M1 in the macbook pro is actively cooled, and does not throttle.

When additional cooling is applied after-market to the macbook air, it has the same performance characteristics as the macbook pro.

The M1 is the same in both products. It throttles when hotter. It's more likely to throttle if not actively cooled and under heavy workload. It's not clocked differently. There's no artificial constraints.

Re:Apple’s M1 Positioning Mocks the Entire x86 Business Model by rowanG077 on Friday April 23, 2021 @05:57AM (#26912933)
There are only two different M1 versions. The 7 GPU version and the 8 GPU version. All of the cpu cores are the same. All power envelopes are the same. That's much different then the vastly different form factors and power envelopes intel has.
Re:Apple’s M1 Positioning Mocks the Entire x86 Business Model by philistine on Friday April 23, 2021 @10:28AM (#26915120)
We have yet to see any new iPad Pro with the M1. I wouldn't be surprised if there was a difference in clock speed with those.
Re:Apple’s M1 Positioning Mocks the Entire x86 Business Model by rowanG077 on Sunday April 25, 2021 @12:06PM (#26933774)
I don't expect so. The air has no active cooling and can run the M1. Should be doable for the ipad as well.
Re:Apple’s M1 Positioning Mocks the Entire x86 Business Model by philistine on Friday April 30, 2021 @03:37PM (#26998244)
I have an M1 Macbook Air and this thing gets a bit hot for an iPad. I don't think the iPad Pro will be able to hold the same clock speed as long as the other machines over the long haul.