We're literally in a thread about wrongful conviction. Evidence. It matters.
This is HN. Please provide evidence of such a claim.
> The activist lawyers and even SF know that these are real criminals but they don’t care.
This is highly speculative. What possible motivation could they have for this?
- To fill USCIS Form I-9, Employment Eligibility Verification.
- To provide a valid nursing license.
USCIS Form I-9 is also required by most jobs. So the remaining jobs that are targeted by undocumented people are informal jobs in agriculture, construction, landscaping, food processing, etc.
From the international news I've seen from El Salvador, it is my impression that Mara Salvatrucha/MS-13 gang members are easy to identify since they use MS-13 tatoos.
What they do want is for immigrants to not fear deportation, so they want to make a stand that they'll fight immigration enforcement every step of the way. Hence why they'll get involved with these kinds of lawsuits. Even if ICE purely deported only people who committed crimes other than illegal entry or overstaying a visa; you'd still have plenty of immigrants afraid of all law enforcement. Yes, even the legal ones; nobody wants to have to show their papers on pain of having their life uprooted, even if they have those papers.
I don't know exactly what lawsuits SF is filing, but I'm going to assume the actual legal argumentation is less "let the assassains go free" and more "assassains should serve time in American prisons rather than being deported to Mexico where they'll likely escape and reoffend".
1. Due to their being no real central database, it's hard for physical persons in the US to prove their identity and consequently their citizenship status.
2. There are a lot of illegal immigrants in the US.
3. There are a lot of illegal immigrants in the US that have lived here for a long time so the "legality" of their status is muddied. This then makes the whole debate around this more about "what is right" and the emotions involved, instead of what the laws say.
https://jacquelinestevens.org/US-Unlawfully-Detaining.Steven...
Source for most: https://www.npr.org/2019/01/16/686056668/for-seventh-consecu...
More context: https://www.cnn.com/2017/02/24/politics/undocumented-immigra...
The statutory language is in 8 USC § 1325[0] and consists in relevant part of:
"Any alien who... obtains entry to the United States by a willfully false or misleading representation... shall... be fined under title 18 or imprisoned... or both"
It's hard to prove and rarely prosecuted of course, but that doesn't change the fact that many of the overstays are guilty.
Obviously, we’re talking about ICE so my comment was meant towards non official border crossings.
Many of the people that OPs friend is complaining about receiving aid from San Francisco "activist lawyers" are from Asia, who obviously didn't enter the country illegally, hence, non-criminals.
Isn't visa overstay illegal? Is it not part of ICE job?
You’re not a criminal if you leave your car parked in a street cleaning zone, you committed a civil infraction.
"Isn't visa overstay illegal?" is not related to "calling everyone who ICE deports “criminals” is factually wrong."
Feel free to jump to pages 7, 8 and 9 of this report. https://docs.house.gov/meetings/GO/GO00/20190712/109772/HHRG...