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Re:US owners find greed doesn't play well in European soccer by walshemj on Wednesday April 21, 2021 @12:05PM (#26891451)
If the US had relegation from baseball and football it would improve the sport.

At the moment there is no penalty for coming last in the AFL or NFL :-) oh and next year you have first pick of the best new players

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Re:US owners find greed doesn't play well in European soccer by mandevil on Wednesday April 21, 2021 @12:23PM (#26891735)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_professional_sports_le...

The NFL, MLB, and the NBA are all higher revenue sports than the EPL. Even the NHL brings in more revenue than every other sports league than the big 3 North American sports + EPL- 30% more than La Liga or Bundesliga. So if revenues for sports without relegation are so much greater than the revenues for sports with relegation, why would it improve the sport?

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Re:US owners find greed doesn't play well in European soccer by prionassembly on Wednesday April 21, 2021 @12:35PM (#26891899)
The best music is also not the one that draws the higher revenues.
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Re:US owners find greed doesn't play well in European soccer by anthk on Wednesday April 21, 2021 @12:41PM (#26891985)
Now add up all the major leagues in Europe and sum it up again.
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Re:US owners find greed doesn't play well in European soccer by mandevil on Wednesday April 21, 2021 @12:59PM (#26892276)
Sure, but let's go by # of teams: The top 58 teams in promotion-relegation system: (EPL+La Liga+Bundesliga- I'll even through in UCL since it's mostly the same core teams driving the attention) 15.5 billion euros The top 62 teams in limited entry leagues: (NFL+NBA) 21.1 billion euros (You can even add in Ligue 1 and Serie A and you STILL don't get to just what the NFL and NBA pull in, setting aside MLB and the NHL. MLS, which does not do promotion/relegation, and is clearly the fifth biggest sport in the US, pulls in ~as much as the EFL.)

In terms of money, which is a rough but reasonable proxy for fan interest, limited entry leagues seem to make more money.

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Re:US owners find greed doesn't play well in European soccer by duncanawoods on Wednesday April 21, 2021 @12:56PM (#26892230)
EPL is higher if you normalise by population.
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Re:US owners find greed doesn't play well in European soccer by mandevil on Wednesday April 21, 2021 @01:04PM (#26892337)
Whose population? The EPL makes so much money because it's a global sport, so why should I normalize by the population of the UK?
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Re:US owners find greed doesn't play well in European soccer by duncanawoods on Wednesday April 21, 2021 @01:40PM (#26892904)
If you want the global sport then use global football revenue. If you want apples to apples for a regional league then compare US to Europe or normalise by population for a single country.
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