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Re:All-new iMac features the M1 chip by Flockster on Tuesday April 20, 2021 @01:40PM (#26877831)
Did I see it correctly, that the iMac only comes with 8GB Ram configurations?

Doesn't the MacBooks come with an 16GB option?

Re:All-new iMac features the M1 chip by steveBK123 on Tuesday April 20, 2021 @01:47PM (#26877973)
16GB RAM usually not a base config option but shows up in the configurator once you select one of the 2-3 base models. TBD once the store reopens.
Re:All-new iMac features the M1 chip by vmception on Tuesday April 20, 2021 @02:02PM (#26878261)
the other M1 macbook only has 8gb possible

it would be consistent for this to only have it, unfortunately

edit: this is incorrect. 16gb is available, didn't realize.

Re:All-new iMac features the M1 chip by Toutouxc on Tuesday April 20, 2021 @02:04PM (#26878302)
Both M1 MacBooks have 8 or 16 GB RAM.
Re:All-new iMac features the M1 chip by otterley on Tuesday April 20, 2021 @02:06PM (#26878371)
That's not so. I'm writing from an M1 MacBook Pro with 16GB factory installed memory.
Re:All-new iMac features the M1 chip by vmception on Tuesday April 20, 2021 @02:12PM (#26878527)
oh. I should have upgraded then.

ah that's right its also the absence of a >13inch M1 machine that keeps me on the fence

Re:All-new iMac features the M1 chip by speedgoose on Tuesday April 20, 2021 @02:04PM (#26878307)
It's ridiculous that Apple ships 8GB configurations in 2021. My company bought me a MacBook pro M1 with only 8GB of ram by mistake and it's extremely frustrating to have so little ram. I look forward to replace it with a laptop with 32GB of ram. Meanwhile I run devops stuff in the cloud because the laptop has not enough ram for that. Once safari advised me to close the jira tab to save ram. Such a shame.
Re:All-new iMac features the M1 chip by kylec on Tuesday April 20, 2021 @02:59PM (#26879583)
I have the 16GB but I push my machine hard and I usually have gigs swapped and I've been absolutely blown away by the performance of my M1 MBP. Was able to step down from a 32GB version without any issue. I'm kinda surprised you're having such a hard time with 8.
Re:All-new iMac features the M1 chip by selsta on Tuesday April 20, 2021 @02:10PM (#26878462)
If your use case needs more RAM then simply chose the 16GB option.

8GB RAM is fine for a large portion of casual users and if it keeps the base price down I'm okay with it.

Re:All-new iMac features the M1 chip by asdff on Tuesday April 20, 2021 @02:41PM (#26879159)
It should not cost $200 for 8gb of RAM. Apple has been asking this price for like 10 years. It's ridiculous.
Re:All-new iMac features the M1 chip by speedgoose on Tuesday April 20, 2021 @02:15PM (#26878592)
Yes I wanted the 16GB one since 32GB is not available yet on Apple M1. But Apple sells a premium laptop that is not good enough for many of their users. That's a fact. 8GB is ridiculous and Apple is rich enough to afford 16GB by default on their premium "pro" laptops.
Re:All-new iMac features the M1 chip by solarkraft on Tuesday April 20, 2021 @02:20PM (#26878693)
I'm surprised since I heard the difference was small at worst. Could you elaborate on the RAM issues?
Re:All-new iMac features the M1 chip by fastball on Tuesday April 20, 2021 @02:12PM (#26878535)
What kinda software are you running?
Re:All-new iMac features the M1 chip by speedgoose on Tuesday April 20, 2021 @02:20PM (#26878687)
Classic devops stuff :

- A web browser with many open tabs. - An audio player - A few code editors / IDE - A chat / video conference software since COVID-19 - An email client once in a while that I tend to leave open - Various development tools - The software stack of my company for development in a Linux VM

Re:All-new iMac features the M1 chip by fastball on Tuesday April 20, 2021 @02:35PM (#26879023)
Fair, my setup is almost identical, except I also do some video editing and I have been very happy with the 16GB MBP 13" (coming from a 32GB MBP 16"). So maybe consider trying to swap your 8GB for a 16GB before thinking you absolutely need 32GB.
Re:All-new iMac features the M1 chip by selsta on Tuesday April 20, 2021 @02:08PM (#26878432)
https://www.apple.com/imac-24/specs/

> Configurable to 16GB unified memory

Re:All-new iMac features the M1 chip by comprev on Tuesday April 20, 2021 @01:49PM (#26878023)
Given they come in multiple colours (and this was a selling point), it looks more aimed at home users/classroom - web browsing, watching movies, light photography/video/audio editing, etc.

Those seeking more power would likely opt for a MBP and external monitor.

Re:All-new iMac features the M1 chip by growt on Tuesday April 20, 2021 @01:46PM (#26877945)
Maybe it's a bto option. The Ethernet port seems to be gone though.
Re:All-new iMac features the M1 chip by ngcazz on Tuesday April 20, 2021 @01:47PM (#26877979)
It’s in the (MagSafe!) power brick, which is super weird.
Re:All-new iMac features the M1 chip by smoe on Tuesday April 20, 2021 @02:08PM (#26878407)
I think it is a pretty neat idea. It is not a cable I want to add/remove often, so not having it coming up to the table, at least sounds nice on paper.
Re:All-new iMac features the M1 chip by Flockster on Tuesday April 20, 2021 @01:47PM (#26877968)
That could be the case. The Ethernet-Port is moved to the Powerbrick.
Re:All-new iMac features the M1 chip by ProfessorLayton on Tuesday April 20, 2021 @01:47PM (#26877967)
They moved the ethernet port into the power adapter.
Re:All-new iMac features the M1 chip by macrael on Tuesday April 20, 2021 @01:47PM (#26877976)
apparently it's in the charging brick
Re:All-new iMac features the M1 chip by ixfo on Tuesday April 20, 2021 @01:50PM (#26878029)
No Ethernet port on a desktop is just insane. I can see the sense in saying "your dock is Thunderbolt and Ethernet goes on the dock" for laptops, but on a dekstop?
Re:All-new iMac features the M1 chip by boplicity on Tuesday April 20, 2021 @02:02PM (#26878254)
I don't think it's a bad choice. That way you only need one cord dangling from the device; the ethernet cord can be attached under the desk. It's actually a thoughtful feature; most people are annoyed by the usual mess of wires. This helps with that.
Re:All-new iMac features the M1 chip by outworlder on Tuesday April 20, 2021 @03:32PM (#26880204)
They could have added more ports, then.
Re:All-new iMac features the M1 chip by mythz on Tuesday April 20, 2021 @02:04PM (#26878319)
It's on the power adapter and shares the same cord as the power cable so only 1 cable is needed to the iMac.
Re:All-new iMac features the M1 chip by Shadonototro on Tuesday April 20, 2021 @02:01PM (#26878231)
macOS is not windows

that OS and the apps over there are supper efficient

it is the same story as iPhone vs Android phones, android always needed 2x more ram/battery than iPhones because the android ecosystem is bloated and slow, just like windows

Re:All-new iMac features the M1 chip by passivate on Tuesday April 20, 2021 @02:28PM (#26878864)
There is nothing that prevents a developer from writing bad applications for any platform. What you said is also not empirically true. There are many sluggish and resource intensive apps on OSX, Adobe's apps, Chrome, Apples own XCode comes to mind.

I haven't used Android phones but my experience with Apple tells me that the phones get slower with every update.

Re:All-new iMac features the M1 chip by jdsully on Tuesday April 20, 2021 @02:10PM (#26878466)
I have an 8GB M1 air. It's fine on day one when you power it on and have a single safari tab, but leave a few things open and its swap hell. The SSD may be fast but it really takes away from the magic when your waiting multiple seconds to switch to another app's window. I regret not waiting for a custom configured 16GB one.
Re:All-new iMac features the M1 chip by kstrauser on Tuesday April 20, 2021 @02:16PM (#26878613)
Yeah, no. I use my Mac for software development, and Docker eats RAM for lunch. I absolutely 100% would not own an 8GB Mac today.

I don't care how memory efficient a particular application is when the size of the data it's processing has grown enormously.

Re:All-new iMac features the M1 chip by Shadonototro on Tuesday April 20, 2021 @09:50PM (#26884498)
That is why they offer options, my grandmother doesn't need 32gb of ram to browse a recipe website or to watch netflix

8GB is to remind software developers that it is plenty enough

You don't want to be in the Android situation where everyone have 4gb-16gb ram in their phones, and as a result developers are bloating their apps with poor programming models, wich results in needs of bigger battery and bigger disk space, this is bad

Re:All-new iMac features the M1 chip by Flockster on Tuesday April 20, 2021 @02:03PM (#26878276)
That was not the question. I was comparing it to other MacOS devices
Re:All-new iMac features the M1 chip by throw4738 on Tuesday April 20, 2021 @02:04PM (#26878327)
And it has soldered SSD, so it can swap really really fast ;)
Re:All-new iMac features the M1 chip by neither_color on Tuesday April 20, 2021 @01:50PM (#26878048)
8gb of ram and 256gb SSD make this a fashion accessory, a fancy email/news/facebook machine for your desk/office. I think these are going to be wildly popular actually. I hope it leads to a better mid-range iMac somewhere between this and a $5000 iMac pro.