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Re:Thanks for the Bonus, I Quit by dilyevsky on Saturday April 17, 2021 @08:23PM (#26848670)
If i recall the same happened when google replaced their holiday gift phone with donation to some charities they picked.
Re:Thanks for the Bonus, I Quit by harryh on Saturday April 17, 2021 @08:56PM (#26848845)
Before it was a gift phone it was $1,000. They changed that in....2008ish maybe. I can't remember the exact year.
Re:Thanks for the Bonus, I Quit by rachelbythebay on Saturday April 17, 2021 @11:52PM (#26849686)
2009 was both. Cash a few months before, N1 right before Christmas.
Re:Thanks for the Bonus, I Quit by dilyevsky on Saturday April 17, 2021 @09:37PM (#26849035)
The year before i joined - 2010 was last one afaik (also when it got leaked)
Re:Thanks for the Bonus, I Quit by rachelbythebay on Sunday April 18, 2021 @12:01AM (#26849706)
2009 leaked. Tweeted while most of us were still in line. Still got the screenshot.

<name> One thousand dollar impromptu cash bonus. I work for Google!!

... October 16th. Dumb.

Re:Thanks for the Bonus, I Quit by lokar on Sunday April 18, 2021 @01:00AM (#26849937)
Thanks Randy!
Re:Thanks for the Bonus, I Quit by fred256 on Saturday April 17, 2021 @09:34PM (#26849026)
2008, it was a T-Mobile G1 which was the first Android phone on the US market.
Re:Thanks for the Bonus, I Quit by kevinyew on Saturday April 17, 2021 @11:06PM (#26849500)
Not to sound miserly, but how is this a bonus for the employee whatsoever?
Re:Thanks for the Bonus, I Quit by brandmeyer on Saturday April 17, 2021 @11:48PM (#26849674)
The Christmas gift was in addition to the normal annual bonus payed out in January.
Re:Thanks for the Bonus, I Quit by mulmen on Saturday April 17, 2021 @08:41PM (#26848776)
Wait what? Who gets the tax break there?
Re:Thanks for the Bonus, I Quit by Thorrez on Sunday April 18, 2021 @01:34AM (#26850048)
When you make a charitable donation of cash, you get a tax deduction to undo the income tax you paid when you originally got that cash. If a company directly donates to charity, you don't pay income tax on that money in the first place, so you don't need a deduction to undo it.

The end result is the same $0 net change in your bank account balance.

Also, companies can deduct all expenses from corporate income tax. So if a company pays you money via payroll, or pays that money directly to a charity,t he company will deduct it from corporate income tax either way.

The benefit of a company making charitable donations directly is that payroll taxes are avoided (not to be confused with income taxes). Both the employee and the company benefit from this, because normally both the employee and the company pay payroll taxes.

Re:Thanks for the Bonus, I Quit by jartelt on Sunday April 18, 2021 @01:12AM (#26849972)
If I recall correctly, the employees just picked a charity and Google gave the donation. The "gift" was being able to pick the charity. I don't think there was any employee tax break.
Re:Thanks for the Bonus, I Quit by Thorrez on Sunday April 18, 2021 @01:35AM (#26850050)
Well the employee doesn't have to pay income tax or payroll tax on the money, so in that sense there is a tax break compared to if the money was given to the employee.
Re:Thanks for the Bonus, I Quit by Salgat on Sunday April 18, 2021 @03:39AM (#26850582)
Not a tax break for the employee, since the net effect is still less money. Unless you consider losing your job and having no salary to tax also a tax break.
Re:Thanks for the Bonus, I Quit by kgwgk on Sunday April 18, 2021 @07:55AM (#26851702)
It’s not “still less money” compared with the situation where the employee gets the money AND donates the money. Of course if the employee was not going to keep the money not getting it is a net loss.
Re:Thanks for the Bonus, I Quit by jartelt on Sunday April 18, 2021 @11:49AM (#26853461)
People were mainly just annoyed that rather than getting a free phone or some cash as a gift, they instead got the ability to choose a charity to receive a donation from Google (which has "value" but not monetary or physical value to the employee). The expected to receive a phone/cash so it felt like less compensation/bonus when they didn't receive it.

I doubt anyone was thinking about donation related tax breaks or anything like that. It was simply "sure I will have Google give $500 to this food bank, but why don't I get a new phone or cash bonus?"

Re:Thanks for the Bonus, I Quit by Thorrez on Sunday April 18, 2021 @06:55PM (#26857306)
Yeah, it depends on what situation you're comparing against.

If you're comparing against the employee getting a gift and keeping it, then yes, the employee was better off before.

But you're comparing against an employee who was previously donating the gift and getting a tax deduction on that donation, the employee is better off now.

Re:Thanks for the Bonus, I Quit by thyrsus on Saturday April 17, 2021 @10:47PM (#26849399)
Obliquely relevant question: can U.S. sole proprietors make expensed charitable contributions? I'm guessing not, because that would decrease the 13.5% Social Security "contribution", and would be on top of the "standard deduction" that was increased to make Schedule A itemization preferable only in exceptional cases.
Re:Thanks for the Bonus, I Quit by dboreham on Saturday April 17, 2021 @11:29PM (#26849599)
I don't know anything about sole trader taxation but corporations can make charitable donations that are treated as business expenses (hence not taxed). They pretty much have to be cash, not in-kind contributions though. Ianaa, etc.
Re:Thanks for the Bonus, I Quit by dilyevsky on Saturday April 17, 2021 @09:39PM (#26849045)
They didn’t share the details but most likely the company. The donation was “on behalf of all employees”
Re:Thanks for the Bonus, I Quit by khuey on Saturday April 17, 2021 @09:25PM (#26848984)
It should be a wash either way unless someone falls into some weird edge case where deductions are limited. The corporation is deducting the payment either way, either as comp paid out to employees or as a charitable donation directly.
Re:Thanks for the Bonus, I Quit by dilyevsky on Saturday April 17, 2021 @09:46PM (#26849093)
That’s probably correct but previously they were also paying your taxes on the gift for you (i know). Since they didn’t share all the details it was hard to figure out if how it played out financially.

I didn’t have a dog in that race bc I couldn’t stand android so I wasn’t even claiming my gift previously but it was interesting to watch the political pickle they got themselves in

Re:Thanks for the Bonus, I Quit by mcny on Saturday April 17, 2021 @09:25PM (#26848989)
If it is a thousand dollar donation, what am I going to do with the tax break? I still have to take a standard deduction. What am I missing?
Re:Thanks for the Bonus, I Quit by dilyevsky on Saturday April 17, 2021 @09:40PM (#26849054)
Majority of goog employees were making high salary in California so very few people in head office were taking standard deduction especially before trumps tax changes
Re:Thanks for the Bonus, I Quit by compiler-guy on Saturday April 17, 2021 @11:42PM (#26849648)
You didn’t get the deduction. It was just a way to direct company funds.
Re:Thanks for the Bonus, I Quit by dlp211 on Saturday April 17, 2021 @10:06PM (#26849192)
Charity is an above the line deduction.
Re:Thanks for the Bonus, I Quit by Thorrez on Sunday April 18, 2021 @01:39AM (#26850068)
No it's not. $300 can be an above-the-line deduction. Any donation beyond that is below the line.

https://www.aarp.org/money/taxes/info-2020/how-to-deduct-202...

Re:Thanks for the Bonus, I Quit by astrange on Saturday April 17, 2021 @11:15PM (#26849543)
It wasn't last year, now it is again, so people might've missed it. I thought you could only deduct $300 though.
Re:Thanks for the Bonus, I Quit by Thorrez on Sunday April 18, 2021 @01:44AM (#26850087)
Yes, it's limited to $300. So it's not very useful for people significantly more than that but still below the standard deduction.
Re:Thanks for the Bonus, I Quit by dboreham on Saturday April 17, 2021 @11:32PM (#26849608)
Are you talking about California state tax? The $300 thing doesn't jive with my federal tax spreadsheet..
Re:Thanks for the Bonus, I Quit by Thorrez on Sunday April 18, 2021 @01:40AM (#26850071)
No, we're talking federally. There's a $300 federal above-the-line charitable deduction. Everything after that is below the line.

https://www.aarp.org/money/taxes/info-2020/how-to-deduct-202...

Re:Thanks for the Bonus, I Quit by quelltext on Sunday April 18, 2021 @07:50AM (#26851670)
"The Human Fund"

- since Festivus 201X

Re:Thanks for the Bonus, I Quit by sjwright on Saturday April 17, 2021 @08:30PM (#26848706)
And then the accountants probably tabulated them as corporate donations. So were they gifts from the employee or not?
Re:Thanks for the Bonus, I Quit by sokoloff on Saturday April 17, 2021 @09:38PM (#26849038)
If you make a donation in someone's name, you get the tax deduction, not them. Google couldn't "pay" the employees in some non-taxable form and then let the employees take the $1000 deduction even if they wanted to (which they don't).
Re:Thanks for the Bonus, I Quit by sjwright on Sunday April 18, 2021 @02:45AM (#26850343)
That’s my point. The donation is financially a corporate donation, but is being marketed to the employee as a perk of their employment. That it’s “their” donation.
Re:Thanks for the Bonus, I Quit by Godel_unicode on Sunday April 18, 2021 @04:16AM (#26850747)
The perk is your charity gets the money, the point of giving to charity isn't the tax benefits...
Re:Thanks for the Bonus, I Quit by sjwright on Tuesday April 20, 2021 @01:28AM (#26871007)
Again yes, that’s exactly my point. They are double dipping on the good will; first as an employee perk, second on their corporate annual reports.
Re:Thanks for the Bonus, I Quit by sokoloff on Sunday April 18, 2021 @08:15AM (#26851788)
If I care about cause XYZ and as part of my employment, my company gives $1000 to a charity that I picked which supports cause XYZ, that absolutely has value to me.
Re:Thanks for the Bonus, I Quit by voisin on Sunday April 18, 2021 @06:50AM (#26851396)
Bonuses to employees are compensation, so tax deductible to the corporation just like a charitable donation.