Re:Why the United States has the best research universities
by bananabiscuit on Friday April 16, 2021 @02:58PM
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A bit of an overreaction here? I’m pretty sure it’s ok for people to share their personal observations.
Re:Why the United States has the best research universities
by systemvoltage on Friday April 16, 2021 @03:03PM
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I don’t think so. I’ve seen time and again that it leads to completely unpleasant nationalism flame war.
Did anyone read the article at all?
Re:Why the United States has the best research universities
by threatofrain on Friday April 16, 2021 @03:17PM
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I'm surprised the trajectory of the forum would make you think that way. Also meta-conversation is very dangerous to focus.
Re:Why the United States has the best research universities
by codegladiator on Friday April 16, 2021 @03:35PM
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Meta-meta-conversation is always fine though.
Re:Why the United States has the best research universities
by ska on Friday April 16, 2021 @03:19PM
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> They’re overwhelmingly US-based. Fields, Nobel, Turing, etc
This isn't really clear. For example, EU has generated about twice the fields medal recipients as the US. That's reasonable in terms of roughly equivalent populations, but does beg the question that if someone grows up in Europe, trains and spends early career in Europe, but ends up a professor in USA before being given a Nobel prize, where do you count the result?
Re:Why the United States has the best research universities
by watwut on Friday April 16, 2021 @03:12PM
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Someone having positive opinion of non American is not starting flamewar. Overreaction to it is. Threatening to flag it just because you disagree, or because someone having positive opinion of something in eu hurts you feeling is absurd.
Re:Why the United States has the best research universities
by systemvoltage on Friday April 16, 2021 @04:39PM
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So far, this thread has been the most uninteresting. These types of opinions lead to completely unsubstantiated back and forth. It’s not even remotely close to truth unless we have some facts to disclose. Threatening to flag!? I apologized to flag and provided reasons for it. Far cry from a threat. Obviously, you’ve all agreed that it was an overreaction.
I’d say, the entire article is flamewar prone. How can you say something is best?
Re:Why the United States has the best research universities
by atoav on Friday April 16, 2021 @03:03PM
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Why is this provocative? It was certainly not meant as a black and white contrasty "it is always true"-law of nature, bit rather someone describing vague undercurrents based onpersonal experience?
Weird overreaction on your side tho.
Re:Why the United States has the best research universities
by elefanten on Friday April 16, 2021 @02:59PM
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The commenter said no references, it seemed like an expression of broad opinion/experience, not like a strong declaration of truth.
Re:Why the United States has the best research universities
by andrewflnr on Friday April 16, 2021 @03:04PM
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"European and American universities both have strengths and weaknesses" is not that provocative.
Re:Why the United States has the best research universities
by ur-whale on Friday April 16, 2021 @03:13PM
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> US-based. Fields, Nobel, Turing,
How many of these were actually educated in the US, as in from primary school, and how many came to the US to complete a PhD after having received an education outside of the US?
This is a provocative comment ready to start flame wars.
Please tell specifics and not paint broad brushstrokes to flame the fires. I’m sorry to flag your comment.
Edit: One source we can look at the awards given to fundamental research. They’re overwhelmingly US-based. Fields, Nobel, Turing, etc. This contradicts the popular generalization.