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Re:Linus Torvalds on Rust support in kernel by finnthehuman on Friday April 16, 2021 @10:39AM (#26834436)
>>> I could be mistaken but you seem angry. Perhaps it wouldn't be a bad idea to read your own code of conduct

A passive-aggressive "you mad bro?" followed by namechecking the coc, all in service of doubling down on antagonizing someone over their choice in workflow? Good grief.

Re:Linus Torvalds on Rust support in kernel by Blikkentrekker on Friday April 16, 2021 @12:32PM (#26835998)
“CoC” seems to suffer from the same problem that “bad cops” and “zero tolerance” politicians seem to suffer from, so that's why it's often brought up.

It seems to be a common thing that those that demand the strictest morality rules also seem to have the most aggression problems and often overstep their own rules, but typically have an excuse ready why in their case it's different.

Though, perhaps it simply stands out more if it's one to chant “code of conduct” or “zero tolerance”, but as far as statistics in the Dutch parliament goes, it's often pointed out that all the parties that are in favor of lighter punishments and rehabilitation tend to be spot free, whereas politicians of parties that advocate harsh punishments and zero tolerance tend to very often have past criminal records themselves.

Re:Linus Torvalds on Rust support in kernel by hlpq on Friday April 16, 2021 @04:20PM (#26838624)
Not sure why this is down-voted. At the very least the people who invoke the CoC are among the most pushy and dominant ones in projects, even when they manage to cloak the dominance so as not to be perceived to be aggressive.

U.S. people are better at that game, since it is expected and rewarded in work life. This is also why they push for CoCs, which have nothing to do with manners or niceness, but are just another power tool.

I have never seen a genuinely nice person push for a CoC. Not once.

Re:Linus Torvalds on Rust support in kernel by Blikkentrekker on Friday April 16, 2021 @05:05PM (#26839086)
> Not sure why this is down-voted.

What I just considered due to your post is that it's quite likely that those who support C.o.C.s are also more likely to cast votes.

I think it quite likely that those with a libertarian life philosophy are far less likely to cast votes on websites in general, especially to voice disagreement.

I concur that those who want enforced niceness seldom are nice themselves and tend to often have their reasons and excuses of why they are justified when they are not so nice.

Re:Linus Torvalds on Rust support in kernel by ksec on Saturday April 17, 2021 @07:54AM (#26843582)
Most bad thing starts with very good intention.

The use of CoC might be one of them.

Re:Linus Torvalds on Rust support in kernel by Blikkentrekker on Saturday April 17, 2021 @08:20AM (#26843722)
Bad intentions don't exist; the bad guy always sees himself as the good guy.

The zero tolerance politician with a domestic violence conviction probably believes that in his case it was different and justified, just as everyone with a domestic violence conviction does.

Re:Linus Torvalds on Rust support in kernel by jabedude on Friday April 16, 2021 @02:55PM (#26837688)
The person he responded to had all but told him to go to hell in the previous email. Seems like a reasonable response to an unreasonable email
Re:Linus Torvalds on Rust support in kernel by mlindner on Friday April 16, 2021 @10:53PM (#26841239)
Eh I'm normally against bludgeoning people with a CoC, but the guy he responded to was basically telling him to "go fuck yourself" masked by euphemisms. So I think this was just a passive-aggressive response in kind to a rude email.
Re:Linus Torvalds on Rust support in kernel by bitwize on Friday April 16, 2021 @11:35AM (#26835174)
The CoC is working as designed.