We are already there. Europeans all use Coinbase and other US exchanges. Coinbase alone brought over $80B in market cap to the US. 100 times more than the market cap of Yahoo when it IPOed.

> Europeans all use Coinbase and other US exchanges

source? I dont use coinbase because of higher costs and all the US shenanigans with other people's data

What do you use?

binance

Binance is likely cheaper but on data shenanigans.. :)

> Europeans all use Coinbase

They certainly don't.

Coinbase is one of the, if not THE most expensive exchange on the planet.

Their infra stack is a disaster, and their feature set, espectially when it comes to transacting with non-US bank is a freaking nightmare.

Only the captive US market that can't use EU-based exchanges is forced to use coinbase.

Also, Germany and three other European countries are left out explicitly by their EULA. You can create an account and use it for trading, but this would be against their EULA.

https://www.coinbase.com/places

Turkey isn't in the EU and hopefully it never will be.

Hopefully Turkey joins the EU as by then it will have become a democratic and financially stable country.

> Hopefully Turkey joins the EU

Once they understand the notion of separation of church and state at a cultural level, that may become a possibility again.

This will likely be a very long while though.

> democratic and financially stable country

...glances at Greece

Greece was never stable. It corrupted the auditors to lie about their financial situation and did nothing to improve it.

I have both the feeling that we should have just dropped them to not have a weight on us, and I am empathic to the people who lived there (who were avoiding taxes as well, so that may not be the correct feeling I should have)

I'm a mixture of Greek, Turkish and Bulgarian, and am now a German citizen. I understand that it's impossible for me to be impartial in such discussions but it may help others in the discussion being more civil if you could say something to the tune of "there needs to be consequences" instead of saying that "we" should have dropped "them" not have a "weight" on "us".

I was not trying to be controversial, sorry.

I was rather trying to show the mixture of "why bother, just let them go" and "there are real people out there" that was expressed several times (and that was feeling as well).

Oh, now I understand what you mean. Thanks for the clarification!

As long as Cyprus is a member, Turkey will never be. Member countries have veto power.

Hopefully the number of separatist statements will die down eventually.

Blanket statements like this verge on being racist. Totally okay if you state your reasons, and I would also agree that Turkey, in its current political and economic climate is far away from EU compatibility. But, when you say "hopefully never", you indicate that there's something categorically wrong with Turkey joining EU and most people would think race or religion.

In short: Please don't do blanket statements.

> Turkey isn't in the EU

I never stated that it was. Turkey is meaningless in regards to the future of crypto, just like Germany or Peru is. But the EU has a power of regulation which affects a somewhat significant amount of earth's population, so it makes sense to play with the thought of it.

Why dont eu finish conversations with Turkey if your statement right Mr. eu spokesman

Hope is an expression of opinion; Unlike tsss, I hope they do get to join the EU — naturally, I’m hoping this is because Turkey changes rather than because the EU does, I’m sure you feel the exact opposite given your username — but tsss was correct to say Turkey isn’t in it.