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Re:Unusual Stock Trading by Whales in US Congress by ABeeSea on Thursday April 15, 2021 @01:37PM (#26823646)
> Pelosi in Dec 22 was against more stimulus.

This is not true. It’s very odd to see the kind of right-wing conspiracies based on outright fabrications spread on HN as literal truths. Here is an article from December 22 were Pelosi is calling for more stimulus:

www.cnbc.com/amp/2020/12/22/trump-calls-covid-relief-bill-unsuitable-and-demands-congress-add-higher-stimulus-payments.html

Here is her direct tweet dated 12/22:

https://mobile.twitter.com/SpeakerPelosi/status/134155753573...?

Edit: There are outright lies in the source article. Sad day for HN that the lies are getting so much traction and fact checking with 1st hand sources is getting downvoted.

Re:Unusual Stock Trading by Whales in US Congress by bombastry on Thursday April 15, 2021 @01:56PM (#26823935)
I also thought this was odd. This site alleges malfeasance based purely on analysis of data but then alludes to a person's thoughts on specific dates without citation.

I also found this article on 2020/12/21 where Pelosi says she wanted more stimulus, but the $600 checks were significant.[1] So it seems all the more unlikely that she said she was against further stimulus at any point on the 22nd.

[1] https://news.yahoo.com/nancy-pelosi-wanted-more-600-22542493...

Re:Unusual Stock Trading by Whales in US Congress by ianthiel on Thursday April 15, 2021 @03:36PM (#26825191)
Why is this being downvoted? These are references to primary sources that directly contradict facts presented.
Re:Unusual Stock Trading by Whales in US Congress by seriousquestion on Thursday April 15, 2021 @01:52PM (#26823870)
People are confused about this because Pelosi rejected the stimulus in October, prior to the election. She didn't accept until December, post election.

Some democrats were urging her to accept it in October: https://twitter.com/AndrewYang/status/1315078896853843970

Re:Unusual Stock Trading by Whales in US Congress by ABeeSea on Thursday April 15, 2021 @02:02PM (#26824019)
That’s not what the business insider linked in the tweet says. It says she described the White House plan as “insufficient” meaning there wasn’t enough stimulus in it. How can criticizing a bill for not having enough stimulus mean you are against stimulus?

The House had passed the HEROES act for additional stimulus in May 2020. The Republican senate refused to even put it up for a vote. She was always for passing of the HEROES act even during this October - December period. She was always pro stimulus.

Re:Unusual Stock Trading by Whales in US Congress by jfk13 on Thursday April 15, 2021 @02:26PM (#26824357)
> the HEROES act

Does anyone else cringe at this American obsession with naming acts of congress so as to create "inspirational" acronyms?

Re:Unusual Stock Trading by Whales in US Congress by sneeze-slayer on Thursday April 15, 2021 @03:00PM (#26824779)
Yeah, I think it's really weird. Maybe a way to help give the bills "spin" and gain support. Honestly, though, I think there are bigger things to worry about.
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Re:Unusual Stock Trading by Whales in US Congress by ABeeSea on Thursday April 15, 2021 @08:08PM (#26827732)
Do you have a specific article with a first hand source saying she was against stimulus? Because her continued and unwavering support for the HEROES act suggest she was always pro-stimulus.

The top article in your Google search (lol) link is the Sun. A British tabloid with the same owner as Fox News.

Also calling me “r****” is definitely against HN civility rules.

Re:Unusual Stock Trading by Whales in US Congress by busymom0 on Thursday April 15, 2021 @08:39PM (#26827965)
> with the same owner

You know the entire establishment media is owned by a select few people right?

She was very clearly against stimulus before election because she didn't want to give a win to her political opponent.

We can say whatever we want about her political opponent but he had made it very clear on Twitter that he would instantly sign a stimulus only bill without pork if it's brought to him. Pelosi on the other hand played politics and blamed it on her political opponent as she didn't want cheques with his name going out before elections.

Here's her interview with CNN's Wolf Blitzer criticized by the left:

https://youtu.be/vV2mBhQR3r4

Here's a left leaning source:

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/pelosi-says-no-cov...

Here's a right leaning source:

https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/pelosi-trump-coronaviru...

> House Speaker Nancy Pelosi ripped into the White House's latest $1.8 trillion coronavirus relief offer during a combative interview with CNN's Wolf Blitzer, accusing President Trump of only wanting to send out a second round of stimulus checks to juice the economy and boost his election odds.

> The Trump administration's proposal -- its largest yet -- drew criticism from both Republicans and Democrats, dimming the odds of another round of emergency aid before the Nov. 3 election. It was expected to include a second round of direct payments of up to $1,200 for adults and $1,000 for children; expanded unemployment benefits at $400 per week and additional funding for state and local governments.

> Blitzer pressed Pelosi about her decision to reject the deal, even as some Democrats, including former presidential candidate Andrew Yang and California Rep. Ro Khanna, urged her to accept the offer. (Khanna tweeted that Pelosi should "make a deal & put the ball in McConnell court").

Re:Unusual Stock Trading by Whales in US Congress by ABeeSea on Thursday April 15, 2021 @09:07PM (#26828139)
The criticism linked in those articles was there wasn’t enough stimulus. She passed the massive stimulus bill of the HEROES Act that the Republicans senate refused to even put up for a vote. She never changes her opinion on more stimulus. She was never against stimulus. She criticized a particular Trump White House plan as not having enough stimulus; a Trump plan that Senate Republicans were against.

Do you have a direct quote from her that says she doesn’t want stimulus compared to the avalanche of quotes supporting more stimulus?

Re:Unusual Stock Trading by Whales in US Congress by busymom0 on Thursday April 15, 2021 @09:19PM (#26828248)
You seemed to ignore all the sources in my comment.

> “If I am sent a Stand Alone Bill for Stimulus Checks ($1,200), they will go out to our great people IMMEDIATELY. I am ready to sign right now. Are you listening Nancy?” Trump tweeted.

> House Speaker Nancy Pelosi ripped into the White House's latest $1.8 trillion coronavirus relief offer during a combative interview with CNN's Wolf Blitzer, accusing President Trump of only wanting to send out a second round of stimulus checks to juice the economy and boost his election odds.

> The Trump administration's proposal -- its largest yet -- drew criticism from both Republicans and Democrats, dimming the odds of another round of emergency aid before the Nov. 3 election. It was expected to include a second round of direct payments of up to $1,200 for adults and $1,000 for children; expanded unemployment benefits at $400 per week and additional funding for state and local governments.

So clearly she didn't want any stimulus before elections. Else she would have gotten the $1200 stand alone bill done and signed instantly.

Once the elections were over:

> Trump calls for $2,000 stimulus checks as $600 payments start being deposited

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/12/30/trump-calls-for-2000-stimulu...

https://thepostmillennial.com/pelosi-says-600-per-household-...

> Pelosi says $600 stimulus payment after 8 months is SIGNIFICANT

> We also have in the legislation, uh, direct payments which were not in the Republican bill, to America's working families. I would have liked them to be bigger, but they are significant and they will be going out soon."

This is obviously a lie since her political opponent had tweeted several times "If I am sent a Stand Alone Bill for Stimulus Checks ($1,200), they will go out to our great people IMMEDIATELY. I am ready to sign right now. Are you listening Nancy?" and "$2,000 stimulus checks"

Is $600 more significant than $1200 or $2000? Is that "not having enough stimulus"?

And now her party holds all 3 - house, senate and presidency and yet there's no $2000 cheques. If her political opponent was willing to give $1200 and then $2000 and yet her own party hasn't gotten that done, then who's worse?

Re:Unusual Stock Trading by Whales in US Congress by ABeeSea on Thursday April 15, 2021 @09:26PM (#26828292)
None of those are quotes from Pelosi where she is against stimulus.

Here is an actual quote from her which is a direct response to a Trump tweet:

“Republicans repeatedly refused to say what amount the President wanted for direct checks. At last, the President has agreed to $2,000 — Democrats are ready to bring this to the Floor this week by unanimous consent. Let’s do it!”

Re:Unusual Stock Trading by Whales in US Congress by itsoktocry on Thursday April 15, 2021 @02:35PM (#26824452)
>It’s very odd to see the kind of right-wing conspiracies

It's even more odd to see the, "if you disagree you're alt-right/ a Nazi" mentality on HN.

Why does a member of congress need to day-trade stocks, let alone leveraged derivatives? It's absurd.

Re:Unusual Stock Trading by Whales in US Congress by Goronmon on Thursday April 15, 2021 @03:14PM (#26824923)
It's even more odd to see the, "if you disagree you're alt-right/ a Nazi" mentality on HN.

You believing that "right-wing conspiracies" automatically means ties to "alt-right/Nazis", I think this says more about your personal biases than the person you are responding to.

Re:Unusual Stock Trading by Whales in US Congress by devmunchies on Thursday April 15, 2021 @04:12PM (#26825554)
> right-wing conspiracies based on outright fabrications

maybe on that one point, but the fact the democrats trade way more on the markets is not a conspiracy theory, it's an outright conspiracy.

why are you defending these people? because they're democrats on paper?

Re:Unusual Stock Trading by Whales in US Congress by allturtles on Thursday April 15, 2021 @04:43PM (#26825886)
I believe GP is defending facts against malicious lies. That seems always a good thing, regardless of whom the lies are directed towards.
Re:Unusual Stock Trading by Whales in US Congress by ABeeSea on Thursday April 15, 2021 @06:37PM (#26827049)
Yes, exactly. This is the kind of obviously disprovable lie that I though wouldn’t fly on HN.
Re:Unusual Stock Trading by Whales in US Congress by devmunchies on Friday April 16, 2021 @03:38PM (#26838218)
> malicious lies

just call it a lie. don't need biased adjectives.

Re:Unusual Stock Trading by Whales in US Congress by ABeeSea on Saturday April 17, 2021 @07:11AM (#26843353)
I don’t think that’s a biased adjective. It describes the author’s intent in distributing an easily disprovable lie. Their intent was malicious.